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To: Oorang

I posted a link to another FR thread about dozens of middle eastern men pouring over the border into Arizona recently. I'll have to find it again, my post was deleted as part of the house cleaning operation that appears to be underway.


1,402 posted on 07/27/2004 2:04:17 PM PDT by PrivateIdaho
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To: PrivateIdaho

I remember that. I was from Tumbelweed Connection, or something like that I believe.


1,404 posted on 07/27/2004 2:06:48 PM PDT by Oorang ( Those who trade liberty for security have neither)
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To: PrivateIdaho; Oorang; JustPiper
I saw the report about the ME men pouring into the US from the southern border. Seems like they are still trying to get personnel into place. If that is indeed the case, the attack won't happen for a while.

We need to keep an eye out for stolen trucks, explosives, etc. If these guys are AQ and we know what to look for (as what JustPiper posted), we should be able to detect and defeat them.

JustPiper, can you post the info on what to look for again?
1,410 posted on 07/27/2004 2:10:38 PM PDT by appalachian_dweller (The RIGHT of THE PEOPLE to keep and bear arms SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.)
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To: PrivateIdaho

Here's part of it, which was still in my email "sent" box:

A Border Patrol spokesman has confirmed that since Oct. 1, 2003, 5,510 illegal aliens designated as "Other Than Mexican" ]

(OTM) have been apprehended while crossing the rugged terrain in southern Arizona. The term actually means "other than Mexico or other central and South American countries," the spokesman said.
So just who are, and from where, is this invading force of encroachers coming from?

"Can"t tell you that", said Border Patrol spokesman Andy Adame, (at the risk of losing his job,) when queried by the Tombstone Tumbleweed newspaper yesterday. Agent Adame declined to say what countries the OTM illegals are from, although he admitted detainees include "people from all over the world." Adame added, "We apprehend them, process them, and turn them over to [the U.S. Department of] Homeland Security and the FBI and that is all I can say."

Fasten your seatbelt: It gets considerably worse!

Three independent sources within the Border Patrol's uniformed division - agents who patrol the Arizona outback in the dark of night - told the Tombstone Tumbleweed newspaper that a significant amount of the OTMs are of Middle Eastern extraction.

When confronted with this information by the newspaper, (at the risk of losing his job) Agent Adame denied that anybody of Middle Eastern origin was a part of the figure of 5,510. But Border Patrol sources are adamant that this is indeed the case.

Editor Simcox of the Tombstone Tumbleweed could not identify his sources, but told DefenseWatch they are serving Border Patrol agents who were involved in the apprehension and detention of OTMs, suspected to be Iranian or Syrian nationals.
Recently, the border patrol has stepped up its enforcement in the southeast quadrant of Arizona, which includes the area of the Huachuca Mountains in Cochise County. The Cochise County seat is in Bisbee, an artsy copper mining town, with a colorful past, located just a few miles north of the America"s southern border with Mexico.

Southeast Arizona has other high-visibility and potential high payoff targets, of profound terrorist relevance. At the foot of the Huachuca Mountains lies Fort Huachuca, the home of the U.S. Army Intelligence Command and school.

Putting yourself in the mind of a terrorist, as a good intelligence analyst must do when seeking to establish a potential "symbolic target list" that a terrorist may covet, there exists no more desirable an objective than the Army"s Intelligence School. Fort Huachuca is a modern version of a 19th Century cavalry outpost that is nestled on the western edge of Sierra Vista Arizona. Also, it is only a short distance from the Mexican border.

In fact, only a few weeks ago Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge visited Fort Huachuca to press the flesh with the troops and to get the "skinny" on the Border Patrol"s use of unmanned aerial vehicles as an aid to enforcement. (If the reader believes that the Border Patrol is employing UAV technology merely to catch some errant migrant workers then I have a bridge in Brooklyn just for you.

According to the Tombstone editor"s sources, on June 13, 2004, Border Patrol agents from the Wilcox, Ariz., patrol station encountered a large group of illegal border crossers in the Chiricaucha Mountain foothills, just east of what is known as The Sanders Ranch. Agents estimated that the group comprised about 100 people.

Border Patrol sources who were present at this mass apprehension state that they seized 71 illegal aliens, of whom 53 were males of Middle Eastern decent. The suspects did not speak Spanish and spoke only poor English, sources told the newspaper.

In fact, after a group of the detainees had been placed in a transport van, one Border Patrol agents on the scene who speaks Arabic and Farsi, the native language of Iran, clearly overheard the detainees speaking Arabic through an air vent in the transport vehicle.

Higher-ups in the Border Patrol allegedly ordered these agents involved not to say a thing to the news media.

"But I have to," one of the agents told the Tombstone editor, obviously acting out of concern of the potential terrorism threat as every American should be.

The agents involved in the June 13th incident noted that these suspects wore garb and clothing that is normally worn by migrants: baseball caps, tennis shoes, jeans, T-shirts even with patriotic American slogans.

But the agents said what was particularly odd was that all the clothing worn by the Middle Eastern males was brand new. Each one in the group looked to have had just been to a barber shop with fresh new haircuts, all clean cut, with the exact style and cut of mustaches.

Border Patrol sources, at the risk of being in violation of orders and losing their jobs, offered a subsequent chilling revelation. On June 21, 2004, they and their colleagues from the Wilcox Border Patrol station apprehended another 24 Arabic-speaking males in the area of Pierce/Sunsites. These small towns are approximately 25 miles northeast of Tombstone and not far from the Chiricaucha foothills.

Even more worrisome, the agents say, is that the 24 men who were seized were only part of a larger group. At least half of the group apparently escaped capture and remain on the loose in the United States.

Today, the 9/11 Commission formally released its report that catalogs the "failures of imagination, policy, capabilities and management" that enabled the terrorists to kill over 3,000 Americans. Is our nation"s failure to seal up the porous border with Mexico setting us up for another 9/11-type attack?

By J. David Galland

J. David Galland is Deputy Editor of DefenseWatch Magazine

(http://www.sftt.org).

He can be reached at

defensewatch02@yahoo.com.


1,496 posted on 07/27/2004 4:13:19 PM PDT by Lucy Lake
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To: PrivateIdaho; Oorang

This Free Republic article mentions Tumbleweed:

Border Patrol field agents have shared some disturbing information with the hope the information will make it to the general public.

A flood of middle-eastern males have been caught entering the country illegally east of Douglas, Arizona. In the last month at least two documented accounts of Border Patrol agents encountering large groups of non-Spanish speaking males in the Chiricahua foothills and on trails along the high mountain areas.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1178010/posts


1,499 posted on 07/27/2004 4:16:15 PM PDT by Lucy Lake
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