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To: Mitchell; Allan; Khan Noonian Singh; John Faust; Shermy; Fedora
I recently read The Hidden Hand: Middle East Fear of Conspiracy by Daniel Pipes, which argues that conspiracy theory ("conspiracism") is a central feature of Middle Eastern political culture. He also says that one of the things promoting this situation is "the plethora of actual conspiracies"! He also wrote another book, just called Conspiracy, which argues for a connection between conspiracism in power and totalitarianism - in his opinion the two most conspiracist recent societies were Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union. Both ideologies were conspiracist (the Jews conspiring against the Aryans, the bosses conspiring against the workers); both governments had their origin in the seizure of power by a counter-conspiracy; and both societies were genuinely conspiracy-ridden, because of their conspiracist political cultures. I have this notion of my own that the world has experienced four (and maybe now five) great outbursts of this symbiosis between conspiracism and counter-conspiracy in the past century: 1920s Russia, 1940s Germany, 1960s China, 1980s Iran, and, just maybe, 2000s USA. One might hope that this latest iteration is a little gentler in its outcome, being based more on DIY Internet theorizing than on demagogic mass media.

In any case, whether or not DU-style conspiracy theory deserves a place in the historical Hall of Fame, I think it is very likely that al Qaeda fits the pattern identified by Pipes - it's a real-life counter-conspiracy motivated by an erroneous conspiracy theory, in this case the "conspiracy against Islam", a concept which first became state ideology in Khomeini's Iran.

I'd also like to see someone write a study of conspiracist thinking in the world's intelligence services. Once again, it's a situation where "if you're not paranoid, you're crazy", and the challenge is to develop a rational paranoia...

60 posted on 08/17/2004 1:38:05 AM PDT by apokatastasis
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To: apokatastasis
Yes, Pipes is worth reading.

I have this notion of my own that the world has experienced four (and maybe now five) great outbursts of this symbiosis between conspiracism and counter-conspiracy in the past century: 1920s Russia, 1940s Germany, 1960s China, 1980s Iran, and, just maybe, 2000s USA. One might hope that this latest iteration is a little gentler in its outcome, being based more on DIY Internet theorizing than on demagogic mass media.

For a country to be on your list, as I understand it, that country's government must make its major policy decisions based on indefensible conspiracy theories. Is that what you meant?

The list itself is of interest. Cambodia under the Khmer Rouge would seem to fall squarely with the others, and perhaps even to be the epitome of this human failure.

68 posted on 08/17/2004 10:39:50 PM PDT by Mitchell
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