Posted on 07/18/2004 12:55:32 PM PDT by knighthawk
http://www.canadafreepress.com
That's good one. So is LifeSite News.
http://www.canadafreepress.com/
...a good one, even.
Why not just pick any Margolis column?
Margolis is a syndicated columnist who is not an employee of sun media and who appears in many papers, many of them in the US.
Sun Media prides itself on being unlike the Toronto Star or the CanWest papers and for respecting alternative viewpoints. Margolis's columns are printed for balance.
To hold up Margolis as representative of Sun Media's viewpoints require you not only to reach back over a year, but also to ignore the majority of Sun Media's colunmists, including, inter alia, Peter Worthington, Licia Corbella and Paul Jackson.
Let us agree that our former prime minister 'ti Jean was a jackass of the first water and that when he took a position contrary to that of the US on the Iraq job, (as any soverein nation is entitled to to) he and his ministers and sherpas did not have to indulge in gratuitous insults, especially in ad hominum attacks on the President of the United States.
Let us also recognize that many Canadians such as myself vigourously opposed his geopolitcal stance and especially his insulting manner.
But in the last general election, the Conservatives gained significant number of seats, including seats in Ontario and the Liberals lost a significant number of seats and are now a minority government. This for a party that has only been merged from disparate elements for half a year and with a leader who had held his leadership only two months when the writ was dropped.
Remember also that while 'ti Jean was saying, in effect, "no, no, we wont go" our troops continued to be deployed to Afghanistan in support of the war on terror and Canadian frigates continued to join as part of the escort screens for US CVNs and continued to mount interdiction patrols the Gulf, and our exchange officers continued to be attached to US units, including AWACS over Iraq and ground units inside Iraq.
And use of the term "pathetic surrender monkeys" is not only an ad-hominum attack on all Canadians but also denigrated those soldiers and seamen who are doing their job professionally and well and denigrates the more than 100 soldiers who have lost their lives with, damned little recognition, on "peace keeping" operations.
9 posted on 07/18/2004 6:00:50 PM EDT by kanawa [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies | Report Abuse ] To: Clive "Was it "pathetic surrender monkeys" who, during the Iran hostage crisis, issued Canadian passports to US embassy personnel and then at personal risk extracted them from Iran?" ...good point. But the contemporary question is, "Is that the kind of History being taught to students in Canada?" The answer, of course, is no. Most people in Canada learn their cynical, negative History from the CBC, CTV, etc, with news outlets like Fox News being censored. At the last population count I saw, Canada had about 32 million people in it--not far from the population of California (not to mention similar anti-US sentiment and politics). It is not likely that Canada will be able follow its predominant sentiment to turn my country to ashes. So Canadians may as well start some free media, openly disagree with its fascist media and government, and join us. We don't easily forget things like that "This Hour Has 22 Minutes" idiocy and hatred episode (polar bear in Ontario, etc.) or the 900 or so soldiers we've lost
I have serious reservations about 'ti Jean's replacement Paul Martin, but when he visited the White House shortly after becoming Prime Minister, he began to speak in more positive terms about Bush's stated casus belli.
http://www.lifesite.net/
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You had to reach back one year and four months in Sun Media to find an article that would suitably make your point? Why not just pick any Margolis column? Margolis is a syndicated columnist who is not an employee of sun media and who appears in many papers, many of them in the US. Sun Media prides itself on being unlike the Toronto Star or the CanWest papers and for respecting alternative viewpoints. Margolis's columns are printed for balance. To hold up Margolis as representative of Sun Media's viewpoints require you not only to reach back over a year, but also to ignore the majority of Sun Media's colunmists, including, inter alia, Peter Worthington, Licia Corbella and Paul Jackson. Let us agree that our former prime minister 'ti Jean was a jackass of the first water and that when he took a position contrary to that of the US on the Iraq job, (as any soverein nation is entitled to to) he and his ministers and sherpas did not have to indulge in gratuitous insults, especially in ad hominum attacks on the President of the United States. Let us also recognize that many Canadians such as myself vigourously opposed his geopolitcal stance and especially his insulting manner. But in the last general election, the Conservatives gained significant number of seats, including seats in Ontario and the Liberals lost a significant number of seats and are now a minority government. This for a party that has only been merged from disparate elements for half a year and with a leader who had held his leadership only two months when the writ was dropped. Remember also that while 'ti Jean was saying, in effect, "no, no, we wont go" our troops continued to be deployed to Afghanistan in support of the war on terror and Canadian frigates continued to join as part of the escort screens for US CVNs and continued to mount interdiction patrols the Gulf, and our exchange officers continued to be attached to US units, including AWACS over Iraq and ground units inside Iraq. And use of the term "pathetic surrender monkeys" is not only an ad-hominum attack on all Canadians but also denigrates those soldiers and seamen who are doing their job professionally and well and denigrates the more than 100 soldiers who have lost their lives with, damned little recognition, on "peace keeping" operations. I have serious reservations about 'ti Jean's replacement Paul Martin, but when he visited the White House shortly after becoming Prime Minister, he began to speak in more positive terms about Bush's stated casus belli
Hmmm.
I have to say I've read good things about Alberta and other places. Perhaps it would be easier to self-identify on a localized level than a national one?
We get into the same thing with each other - we all support Americans who are Conservative, of course - but when New York, California, Washington and other bastions of Socialism, the Freepers in those areas really get walloped.
Passions seem to rule over intellect sometimes.
I should go have a cup of tea and let my temper cool before writing any more replies.
- but when New York, California, Washington and other bastions of Socialism do something stupid (like embrace Hillary Clinton, treat veterans nasty, etc.), the Freepers in those areas really get walloped.
I know what you're saying, but no, I won't self identify myself as a Nova Scotia first (people down there are actually conservative, despite the central government's best efforts to get everyone down there on the dole) and a Canadian second. I'm proud to be a Candian, even if a lot of my countrymen seem determined to be idiots. Things can change, given time.
I see all the "hate-Canada" crowd are here. How refreshing...
OTTAWA Paul Martin in favour of war in Iraq? No! Say it aint so.
The fact is we are not neutral in this war
.We want to see a new government put in place. (Calgary Herald, April 4, 2003).
Once the war in Iraq began, Canada was far from neutral. The only satisfactory outcome was a defeat of Saddam Hussein and his removal from power. Canadas strongest desire was for a swift and just victory by coalition forces. (Speech in Toronto, April 30, 2003).
I really think Canada should get over to Iraq as quickly as possible," (North Bay Nugget, April 30, 2003)
Martin claims the Liberals kept Canada out of the war in Iraq.
Wrong.
Canadian troops have participated in the war in Iraq since the beginning. The Liberals refused to admit this publicly. Worse, they failed to properly support the brave men and women they sent there on our behalf.
And since Paul Martin pushed Jean Chrétien out of office, Canada has sent even more troops to Iraq.
Imagine that. Canadian troops in Iraq fighting terrorism.
Canadians should demand better. Our troops certainly deserve better.
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Thanks for the ping.
You should be commenting on the fact that 60% do not think America(read Bush)is evil. Besides, anybody that would hang an opinion on an Eric Margolis article ( an American by the way) casts more doubt about the evil nature of Americans ( my family and grandkids in New Jersey accepted). Get a new soapbox and accept the fact that this is not a battle of nations, it is a battle of cultures. Who is responsible for Moore? you have enough socialists assh*les in your own back yard without dwelling on the assh*les north of the 49th. We are dealing with them and making good positive strides. We will stand as united conservatives and eventually overcome 35 years of liberals at the helm. Besides, in our hearts most Canucks are aspiring Yankee Doodle Dandies anyway.
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