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To: robertpaulsen
QuoteDoesn't "arms" have a military connotation? For example, a military person would say that he heard "small-arms fire". A civilian would say he heard "gunfire". Very specific language, indeed.

Arms has come to mean weapons of any and every sort. Read:Arms Race. In the military, Arms is specifically man-portable, anti-personnel. Ordnance is artillery and delivered weaponry, such as Dragon, AT-4, Stinger, TOW, Mk type bombs, etc.
71 posted on 07/16/2004 10:39:05 AM PDT by rjsimmons
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To: rjsimmons
From etymonline.com

arm (2) - "weapon," 1300, from O.Fr. armes (pl.), from L. arma "weapons," lit. "tools, implements (of war)," from PIE base *ar- "fit, join." The notion seems to be "that which is fitted together." Meaning "heraldic insignia" (in coat of arms, etc.) is 1330; originally they were borne on shields of fully armed knights or barons. The verb meaning "to furnish with weapons" is from 1205. Arms race first attested 1936.

77 posted on 07/16/2004 10:43:43 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (For an Evil Super Genius, you aren't too bright are you?)
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To: rjsimmons
I'm not trying to compare or contrast "arms" and "ordnance".

I'm simply saying that "arms" is more a military term. "Guns" is more a civilian term. Do you agree?

81 posted on 07/16/2004 10:48:57 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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