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To: hunter112
Maybe you're unaware of the fact that gay couples can adopt nearly everywhere in the US, and that lesbians can always find a sympathetic friend and a turkey baster. Quite a few have kids from a previous straight relationship. I hope that all of them are trying to raise their kids as good citizens. In any case, are you going to make the kids in these relationships suffer because of the circumstances of their parents? And no, you're not going to be able to take all of these kids out of those homes and put them with Ozzie-and-Harriett families, there just aren't enough of them out there waiting to adopt non-infants.

Your trying to add too much to the scope of my post. What I said was:

"Then again, neither can possibly produce kids, and would not be considered a married couple and family - Which is why marriage exists, and why the state has a vested interest in preserving and nurturing the next generation of good citizens."

The key word here is produce. When you adopt, yout take custody of the result of sexual contact between a male sperm and female egg. In a homosexual relationship, you must go outside the relationship to come up with both of these items.

97 posted on 07/16/2004 2:01:04 PM PDT by RobRoy (You only "know" what you experience. Everything else is mere belief.)
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To: RobRoy
The key word here is produce. When you adopt, yout take custody of the result of sexual contact between a male sperm and female egg. In a homosexual relationship, you must go outside the relationship to come up with both of these items.

I guess I see women as the "producers", since getting a sperm donor takes only a matter of a bit of money, sometimes it can happen for free. And, yes, one can go outside the relationship to get the needed gamete, but the children are raised within the relationship that the parent(s) provide.

In times when test-tube babies, surrogate mothers, and artificial insemination were not possible, and sperm donation through actual intercourse was the only (deeply frowned on) way, family law was set up. Today, with effective means of conception control, and the forms of offspring creation outside of traditional marriage being considered legal, marriage and family can indeed be considered separate and distinct in the lives of at least some people.

Does this destroy "the family"? The vast majority of our fellow citizens are going to reproduce the old fashioned way, by finding a partner of the opposite sex, marrying and mating (I suppose not necessarily always in that order), and about half of them staying together at least through the period of time necessary to raise the children to their own reproductive age.

I guess being an adopted child gives me a perspective on "family" that might be different from others here.

103 posted on 07/16/2004 3:58:15 PM PDT by hunter112
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