Posted on 07/16/2004 7:05:35 AM PDT by Kerberos
"The "religous right wing" of the GOP is it's base. If that is somehow offensive to you, are you suggesting that the GOP
go against it's base?"
However that has not always been so, as the article points our the religious right has taken control of the GOP. So no I am not suggesting that the GOP go against its base, I am demanding that they get rid of their base.
The Christian right has no understand or interest in individulism and freedom which is what America was orginally about.
However that has not always been so, as the article points our the religious right has taken control of the GOP. So no I am not suggesting that the GOP go against its base, I am demanding that they get rid of their base.
The Christian right has no understand or interest in individulism and freedom which is what America was orginally about.
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Just judging by your sentence structure--America is pretty foreign to you.
Remind me to quote you some American history sometime.
That's quite an observation. I had not looked at it like that before, but it sure does make sense...
...and you come here to post those thoughts? Take a look at the people around you. We are the religious right wing.
"Remind me to quote you some American history sometime."
Oh, please do so at your earliest convenience.
"and you come here to post those thoughts? Take a look at the people around you. We are the religious right wing."
No kidding, that's why I bring the fight here to the home of the interlopers.
A better analogy would be that conservative evangelicals are to the GOP as to what blacks are to the Dems.
And the GOP has finally started winning.
The Christian right has no understand or interest in individulism and freedom which is what America was orginally about.
Dang right. Let's bring back all those circa 1800 blue laws.
Comparing the web sites shows that conservatives are very visible in their networking, not that they are very effective. Liberals didn't go after CEO positions when they took over the country. They knew everyone wanted to be CEOs. They went on to become Human Resources directors. Nobody knew the Revolution was on until someday some woke up in the late 70s and realized that every major denomination, every newspaper, every television state, every nationally prominent university, every major foundation, and even most major corporations had become systemically socialist.
Conservatives try to rally everyone to believe in their cause by shouting, "Look at us, everyone, We're infiltrating!"
In "the Devil's Advocate," Satan summed up how he does it quite nicely: "Never let them see you coming."
NO.
The liberals "taking over" is not the source of the problem. Its the CINO's and other Christian leaders with no backbone to blame for letting the mainstreaming of birth control, easy divorce, easy salvation, easy no-fault parenting, unfaithfulness in marriage, the mainstreaming of the smut and filth in film and on TV, and homosexuality into the church. Lets not talk BS here. We (Christians) know what the difference is between the worlds way and God's way. Christian leadership tolerated all this crap...piece by piece. Liberals just started filling in the pews because they all-of-a-sudden felt more comfortable there.
"Dang right. Let's bring back all those circa 1800 blue laws."
Unfortunatly we still have many on the books that need to be taken care of. But since the Lawerence discission it looks like progress will start in that direction.
ping
In other words we don't want to get back to what America was all about.
First, a little current events lecture for the sake of everyone on the thread.
This article comes from the website TheocracyWatch.org, a project of the Center for Religion, Ethics and Social Policy (CRESP) at Cornell University. CRESP is a nonsectarian, action-based educational organization with its roots in religious dialogue, human rights advocacy, and ethical thought.
An outsider's view of a recent TheocracyWatch.org event can be found here, for a balanced view of the Cornell University-based orgnization.
It's leaders and staff are even more colorful. Here's some biographical info:
Joan Bokaer (founder) was a nuclear disarmament activist and national speaker in the 1980's....She joined several organizations of the Religious Right and spoke extensively with fundamentalists until she felt she understood their way of thinking...She organized A Global Walk for A Livable World - one hundred people who walked from Los Angeles to New York City in 1990 to raise awareness about environmental issues. Upon her return from the walk she founded EcoVillage at Ithaca, an environmentally sensitive community of sixty households that has plans to expand. She also co-organized the Third International EcoCity Conference in Senegal, West Africa in 1996. Ms. Bokaer wrote a play, the Chapel of Love to add fun and humour to what is otherwise a very disturbing subject. The play highlights the absurdity of the religious right in high places in government using real quotes from real people.
Susan McGreivy is a retired ACLU staff attorney, who won the 1981 "Harvey Milk Award" from the Christopher Street West Association, which produces "the annual Greater Los Angeles LGBT Pride Celebration hosted by the independent City of West Hollywood."
Chips Gagnon is an Assistant Professor in the Dept. of Politics at Ithaca College, whose "particular interest is the ways in which right-wing forces construct a fear of others -- both internal and external others -- to impose their agendas on populations."
Nancy Siemen and Susan Butros are both members of the Episcopal Peace Fellowship, whose mission is "To aid and encourage all Episcopalians to strive for justice and peace among all people and to bear nonviolent witness to Christ's call to peace....a commitment to renounce, so far as possible, participation in war and other forms of violence..."
Kathleen Daimani, PhD is President of the TheocracyWatch board of directors, and author of Sophia: Exile And Return, a paper about "awakening the fire" of the goddess Sophia in oneself. Dr. Daimani has written several other essays on Sophia, which can be found here.
Something else to think about if Roe & the school prayer decisions were overturned, abortion & school prayer would not be federal -- hence nationally divisive-- issues.
Coming out are we?
Thanks for posting the link to Theocracywatch.org. I am already very familiar with their site but I do agree it is something that needs to be posted here for others to review.
"CRESP apparently decided that the presence of an equal number of religious conservatives would ruin the affair’s cozy, echo chamber-like atmosphere."
Yeah, this sounds like the beginning of a "balanced view of the Cornell University-based organization."
ROTFLMAO
"DU certaintly has nowhere near the posting volume of FR. I read both on a regular basis"...Kerberos
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