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To: babyface00

You opined that government benefits were the real reason homosexuals want "gay" marriage. They have stated over and over again that their real aim is to destroy the very meaning of marriage and family. Best expressed in their own words:

[I know this is little bit long, but well worth the effort to read a few paragraphs.]

From LA Times of March 12, 2004
Paula Ettelbrick, a law professor who runs the International Gay & Lesbian Human Rights Commission, recommends legalizing a wide variety of marriage alternatives, including polyamory, or group wedlock. An example could include a lesbian couple living with a sperm-donor father, or a network of men and women who share sexual relations.

One aim, she says, is to break the stranglehold that married heterosexual couples have on health benefits and legal rights. The other goal is to "push the parameters of sex, sexuality and family, and in the process transform the very fabric of society." ... [snip]

An excerpt from: In Their Own Words: The Homosexual Agenda:

"Homosexual activist Michelangelo Signorile, who writes periodically for The New York Times, summarizes the agenda in OUT magazine (Dec/Jan 1994):

"A middle ground might be to fight for same-sex marriage and its benefits and then, once granted, redefine the institution of marriage completely, to demand the right to marry not as a way of adhering to society's moral codes, but rather to debunk a myth and radically alter an archaic institution... The most subversive action lesbian and gay men can undertake --and one that would perhaps benefit all of society--is to transform the notion of family entirely."

"Its the final tool with which to dismantle all sodomy statues, get education about homosexuality and AIDS into the public schools and in short to usher in a sea change in how society views and treats us."

Chris Crain, the editor of the Washington Blade has stated that all homosexual activists should fight for the legalization of same-sex marriage as a way of gaining passage of federal anti-discrimination laws that will provide homosexuals with federal protection for their chosen lifestyle.

Crain writes: "...any leader of any gay rights organization who is not prepared to throw the bulk of their efforts right now into the fight for marriage is squandering resources and doesn't deserve the position." (Washington Blade, August, 2003).

Andrew Sullivan, a homosexual activist writing in his book, Virtually Normal, says that once same-sex marriage is legalized, heterosexuals will have to develop a greater "understanding of the need for extramarital outlets between two men than between a man and a woman." He notes: "The truth is, homosexuals are not entirely normal; and to flatten their varied and complicated lives into a single, moralistic model is to miss what is essential and exhilarating about their otherness." (Sullivan, Virtually Normal, pp. 202-203)

Paula Ettelbrick, a law professor and homosexual activist has said: "Being queer is more than setting up house, sleeping with a person of the same gender, and seeking state approval for doing so. . Being queer means pushing the parameters of sex, sexuality, and family; and in the process, transforming the very fabric of society. . We must keep our eyes on the goals of providing true alternatives to marriage and of radically reordering society's view of reality." (partially quoted in "Beyond Gay Marriage," Stanley Kurtz, The Weekly Standard, August 4, 2003)

Evan Wolfson has stated: "Isn't having the law pretend that there is only one family model that works (let alone exists) a lie? . marriage is not just about procreation-indeed is not necessarily about procreation at all. "(quoted in "What Marriage Is For," by Maggie Gallagher, The Weekly Standard, August 11, 2003)

Mitchel Raphael, editor of the Canadian homosexual magazine Fab, says: "Ambiguity is a good word for the feeling among gays about marriage. I'd be for marriage if I thought gay people would challenge and change the institution and not buy into the traditional meaning of 'till death do us part' and monogamy forever. We should be Oscar Wildes and not like everyone else watching the play." (quoted in "Now Free To Marry, Canada's Gays Say, 'Do I?'" by Clifford Krauss, The New York Times, August 31, 2003)

1972 Gay Rights Platform Demands: "Repeal of all legislative provisions that restrict the sex or number of persons entering into a marriage unit." [Also among the demands was the elimination of all age of consent laws.]


369 posted on 07/14/2004 4:02:48 PM PDT by little jeremiah ("You're possibly the most ignorant, belligerent, and loathesome poster on FR currently." - tdadams)
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To: little jeremiah
Thanks for posting that. I'd never heard of the "1972 Gay Rights Platform"--so I looked it up.

1972 GAY RIGHTS PLATFORM IN THE UNITED STATES

(adopted by the National Coalition of Gay Organizations meeting in Chicago, Illinois, February 13, 1972)

Millions of gay women and men in this country are subject to severe social, economic, and psychological and legal oppression because of their sexual orientation.

We affirm the right of all persons to define and express their own sensibility, emotionality, and sexuality, and to choose their own lifestyle, so long as they do not infringe upon the rights of others. We pledge an end to all social, economic, and legal oppression of gay women and men.

We demand the repeal of all laws forbidding voluntary sex acts involving consenting persons in private.

Laws prohibiting loitering for the purpose of soliciting for a homosexual liaison are vague and unconstitutional. Nevertheless, they are frequently used as the legal cover for police entrapment of gay women and men.

We demand the repeal of all laws prohibiting solicitation for a voluntary, private sexual liaison.

Prejudice and myth have led to widespread discrimination against gay women and men.

We demand the enactment of civil rights legislation, which will prohibit discrimination because of sexual orientation in employment, housing, public accommodation, and public services.

FEDERAL DEMANDS:

1. Amend all federal Civil Rights Acts, other legislation, and government controls to prohibit discrimination in employment, housing, public accommodations, and public services, because of one’s sexual orientation.

2. Issuance by the President of an executive order prohibiting the military from excluding for reasons of their sexual orientation, persons who of their own volition desire entrance into the Armed Services; and from issuing less than fully-honorable discharges for homosexuality; and the upgrading to fully honorable all such discharges previously issued, with retroactive benefits.

3. Issuance by the President of an executive order prohibiting discrimination in the federal civil service because of sexual orientation, in hiring and promoting; and prohibiting discriminations against gay women and men.

4. Elimination of tax inequities victimizing single persons and same-sex couples.

5. Elimination of bars to the entry, immigration, and naturalization of gay aliens.

6. Federal encouragement and support for sex education courses, prepared and taught by gay women and men, presenting homosexuality as a valid, healthy preference, lifestyle, and as a viable alternative to heterosexuality.

7. Appropriate executive orders, regulations and legislation banning the compiling, maintenance and dissemination of information on an individual's sexual preferences, behavior, and social and political activities for dossiers and data banks, and ordering the immediate destruction of such data.

8. Federal funding of aid projects for social and political activities of gay women’s and men’s organizations designed to alleviate the problems encountered by gay women and men which are engendered by an oppressive sexist society.

9. Immediate release of all gay women and men now incarcerated in detention centers, prisons, and mental institutions because of sexual offense charges relating to victimless crimes or sexual orientation; and that adequate compensation be made for the physical and mental duress encountered; and that all existing records relating to the incarceration be immediately expunged.

STATE DEMANDS:

1. All federal legislation and programs enumerated in Demands 1, 4, 6, 7, 8, and 9 above should be implemented at the state level where applicable.

2. Repeal of all state laws prohibiting private sexual acts involving consenting persons; equalization for homosexuals and heterosexuals for the enforcement of all laws.

3. Repeal all state laws prohibiting solicitation for private voluntary sexual liaisons; and laws prohibiting prostitution, both male and female.

4. Enactment of legislation prohibiting insurance companies and any other state-regulated enterprises from discriminating because of sexual orientation, in insurance and in bonding or any other prerequisite to employment or control of one's personal demesne.

5. Enactment of legislation so that child custody, adoption, visitation rights, foster parenthood, and the like shall not be denied because of sexual orientation or marital status.

6. Repeal of all laws prohibiting transvestitism and cross-dressing.

7. Repeal of all laws governing the age of sexual consent. [legalize pedophilia]

8. Repeal of all legislative provisions that restrict the sex or number of persons entering into a marriage unit; and the extension of legal benefits of marriage to all persons who cohabit, regardless of sex or numbers.”



http://www.reclaimamerica.org/pages/NEWS/newspage.asp?story=1374


Note how much of this agenda has already come to pass.

And note where it's going: "Repeal of all legislative provisions that restrict the . . . number of persons entering into a marriage unit." I.e., the gay agenda foresees polygamy in its future.

438 posted on 07/14/2004 7:29:27 PM PDT by Gelato
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To: little jeremiah
I agree with what you wrote. However, I was (or at least intended) to express why there was opposition to gay marriage or, more specifically, why government involvement in marriage makes changing the definition problemmatic.

The motives on the other (pro-gay marriage) side may be (and obviously are) very different.
481 posted on 07/15/2004 5:15:29 AM PDT by babyface00
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