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To: RavenMoon

Social conservatives agree on traditional moral absolutes, which are essentially the same throughout the history of civilized human society. What has been considered virtuous and moral in sexual behavior have been amazingly consistent throughout history, and every monotheist religion as well as many that aren't such as Buddhism all share the same values. None have accepted same sex acts as anything other than unnatural and immoral.

Here's a statement by John Adams about virtue:

"We ought to consider what is the end of government before we determine which is the best form. Upon this point all speculative politicians will agree that the happiness of society is the end of government, as all divines and moral philosophers will agree that the happiness of the individual is the end of man. ... All sober inquirers after truth, ancient and modern, pagan and Christian, have declared that the happiness of man, as well as his dignity,
consists in virtue." --John Adams

Now that's conservatism in a nutshell. It's not just the RTKBA, or lower taxes, that is the foundation of conservatism. It's that social stability and progress has to be founded on public virtue. Many of the founders expressed that very explicitly.


57 posted on 07/12/2004 1:56:32 PM PDT by little jeremiah ("You're possibly the most ignorant, belligerent, and loathesome poster on FR currently." - tdadams)
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To: little jeremiah

Here's a statement by John Adams about virtue:

"We ought to consider what is the end of government before we determine which is the best form. Upon this point all speculative politicians will agree that the happiness of society is the end of government, as all divines and moral philosophers will agree that the happiness of the individual is the end of man. ... All sober inquirers after truth, ancient and modern, pagan and Christian, have declared that the happiness of man, as well as his dignity,
consists in virtue." --John Adams

Man, is he wise. A great point! Good parents dont raise their children to be 'happy', or they create unhappy brats. They raise them to be disciplined and kind and considerate, and from that comes the inner happiness of being a decent person.

Amazing, our 1st Three Presidents, giants all: An exemplar of leadership and statesmanship (Washington); a lover of virtue and wise Government (Adams); and an eloquent champion of freedom and liberty (Jefferson).


104 posted on 07/12/2004 9:30:41 PM PDT by WOSG (Peace through Victory! Iraq victory, W victory, American victory!)
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