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To: mastequilla
I'm as fiscally conservative and small government as they come, but I happen to think the Pell Grant is one of the few things the government does right. It is a good investment in that it actually helps people get an education, and an education helps them get a better job and be self-sufficient and contribute to society.

Many people, myself among them, could not have gone to college without the Pell Grant. The taxes I've paid since I graduated college have been far in excess of what they would have been without a college degree and it's far more than I ever received in grants.

43 posted on 07/12/2004 9:04:04 AM PDT by tdadams (If there were no problems, politicians would have to invent them... wait, they already do.)
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To: tdadams
I'm as fiscally conservative and small government as they come, but I happen to think the Pell Grant is one of the few things the government does right. It is a good investment in that it actually helps people get an education, and an education helps them get a better job and be self-sufficient and contribute to society.

Many people, myself among them, could not have gone to college without the Pell Grant. The taxes I've paid since I graduated college have been far in excess of what they would have been without a college degree and it's far more than I ever received in grants.

You know what, too bad! Life isn't fair.

You can't be a conservative if you think the government ought to take money from hardworking americans and hand it out to those who are unwilling to put themselves through college. I worked between 2 & 3 jobs while going through school without any government handouts. I don't buy the argument that you couldn't have gone to college without Pell Grant? Did you consider joining the military? Did you consider working? Did you consider taking a year or two and saving up enough money to put yourself through college? Did you consider working while in college?

I don't accept your liberal democratic vision that government handouts paid for on the backs of hardworking americans are an acceptable governmental policy.

46 posted on 07/12/2004 9:08:10 AM PDT by mastequilla
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To: tdadams
I'm as fiscally conservative and small government as they come, but I happen to think the Pell Grant is one of the few things the government does right. It is a good investment in that it actually helps people get an education, and an education helps them get a better job and be self-sufficient and contribute to society.

Pell grants disprove the anti-voucher argument that money used at private/parochial K-12 schools will come with all sorts of ideological strings attached. Pell grants are already used at colleges with no impact on ideological stance (though they do drive the cost up).

98 posted on 07/12/2004 12:29:09 PM PDT by Sloth (We cannot defeat foreign enemies of the Constitution if we yield to the domestic ones.)
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