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To: nwctwx
Familiar with the name Khabab? Or Khan? Do you think Oasama is operating with or without state sponsorship? Where oh where have all of the Speznatz gone?

They not only have the knowledge, they've had it for a long time.
724 posted on 07/12/2004 11:57:05 AM PDT by milkncookies (Terrorism:The unlawful use or THREAT of violence by a person or an organized group...)
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Blackout Hits Athens Month Before Games

ATHENS, Greece (AP) - The worst blackout in more than a decade hit Athens and southern Greece on Monday, leaving millions sweltering in a heat wave and raising concerns about whether the lights will go out at next month's Olympics.

The government blamed the outage on "mismanagement" of the electricity grid. Still, officials promised the network was ready to handle the Aug. 13-29 Olympics.

But it was yet another hurdle in Athens' attempt to convince the world it is ready to host well-run and safe games. Olympics preparations have come under criticism because of construction delays and concerns over security arrangements to stop terror attacks.

The midday blackout knocked out air conditioners as afternoon temperatures soared to 104 degrees.

725 posted on 07/12/2004 12:03:15 PM PDT by nwctwx
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To: milkncookies

Abu Khabab was intricately involved with the chemical tests of AQ (the dog videotapes) if I recall correctly.

Abdul Qadeer Khan, he is a bad dude.

I wouldn't be quick to dismiss that UBL has some sort of state sponsorship. The list of possible states is long though, it would be a guess on my part.

Another quote from Osama's Revenge:

"Intelligence sources have confirmed that SPETSNAZ officials from the former Soviet Union were on bin Laden's payroll from 1996 to 2001 to maintain and prepare the nuclear suitcases for activation. Moreover, following the invasion of Afghanistan and the loss of his laboratories, bin Laden reportedly sought out and obtained the technical assistance of twelve leading Pakistani scientists, including Dr. Sultan Bashiruddin Mahmood, Dr. Chaudry Abdul Najid, and Dr. Mirza Ysus Baig. On November 25, 2001, Taliban leader Mullah Omar assured BBC reporters that the nuclear destruction of the United States was well underway. 'The plan is going ahead and, God Willing, it is being implemented. But it is a huge task, which is beyond the will and comprehension of human beings. If God's help is with us, this will happen within a short period of time; keep in mind this prediction."

The link to his statement can be found here:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/1657368.stm


732 posted on 07/12/2004 12:14:07 PM PDT by nwctwx
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To: milkncookies; All

Since you're discussing these guys, do you all remember my search for Midhat Mursi aka abu Khabab?

He was supposed to also be entering the US via Mexico. But suddenly his name disappeared from the FBI most wanted list. There were rumors that he was captured.

Here is the story I saved, yes it is from Debka via Quayle but that's all there is............


Midaat Mursi: Dirty Bomber on the Loose



January 19, 2004

US intelligence agencies fighting al-Qaeda have launched a manhunt in the US, Mexico, Canada and elsewhere for Midaat Mursi, the Egyptian who, according to DEBKA-Net-Weekly’s counter-terror sources, is chairman of al-Qaeda’s WMD committee. He is believed to be traveling with one or two other people, carrying dirty bombs.

The exploits of Mursi, also known as Abu Khabab, and his companions are one of the main immediate triggers for the raising of the terror alert in the US from elevated (yellow) to high (orange) at the end of December. The alert was again lowered to yellow last week, but our terror experts say that this does not mean that the danger is gone. Rather, it means that the Americans are not sure these days whether Mursi is in North America, Europe or the Middle East.

But reports about him being sent by his commander, al-Qaeda’s number-two, Ayman al-Zawahiri, to carry out radioactive attacks in a big Western city are being confirmed by intelligence sources. To avoid jeopardizing the manhunt now in process, DEBKA-Net-Weekly’s counter-terror sources can’t reveal all the details about where this information comes from.

What we can say at this stage is that American special forces are engaged in a number of operations inside western Europe, Chechnya, and in Palestinian cities and refugee camps in the Middle East. In addition, for the first time, there have been secret raids inside the US itself.

These undercover operations have netted several dozen of Mursi’s collaborators and accomplices who were arrested and moved to undisclosed places where they are under interrogation. In the past few days, these interrogations have revealed more details about the radioactive attack that was planned for New Year’s Eve.

They have also produced evidence of Chechnyan and Palestinian involvement with al-Qaeda — the first direct link to be discovered between Chechnyan and Palestinian terrorists at the operational level.

On the WMD game since before 9/11

On November 17, 2001, DEBKAfile wrote in the article entitled Entire Taleban-al Qaeda heads for mountain refuge:

“Our intelligence and military experts also discount the ‘documents’ discovered in a base south of Kabul which claimed to bear instructions on how to build nuclear weapons and missiles. Crude red herrings, the instructions turn out to be translations of material available in any bookshop or internet site. The only member of the al Qaeda network aside from its top leaders who knows the truth about the group’s weapons of mass destruction resources is a chemical engineer called Midhat Mursi, or Abu Khabab, a member of the Egyptian Jihad Islami.

“At the Tora Bora base near Jalalabad called Al Badr or Abu Kebab Camp, less than 20 km east of Kabul (Ed. rebuilt on the site of a camp first constructed by the CIA in the early 1980s; the whole complex surrounding the camp known as Darunta), Mursi built and managed the network’s facilities for the manufacture of nuclear, chemical, biological and toxic weapons and trained agents in their use. In Western terms, Abu Kebab (variant spelling) may be regarded as the director of bin Laden’s nuclear program.

“As of September 9, two days before the suicide attacks against the World Trade Center and Pentagon, the facility was evacuated and Mursi transferred to a hideout near bin Laden in the Hindu Kush Mountains.”

Mursi’s name surfaced when the US captured the Darunta camps in October 2001.

On March 1, 2003, Khalid Sheik Mohammed was captured in Rawalpindi, Pakistan, in a house owned by Abdul Quddos Khan, a Pakistani biologist who had access to biological, chemical, and nuclear production materials. Quddos managed to escape. In the rooms of his house, American special forces found hand-written documents and computer hard drives to do with al-Qaeda’s efforts to build dirty bombs. In some of these documents, the name of Abu Khabab was mentioned.

On Friday, January 9 2004, we got a glimpse of the complexity of the al-Qaeda terror machine and how everything, people and events, are interconnected from back in the pre-September 11 period. In a laconic official announcement, the Swiss federal police said that they had arrested eight people in connection with terror attacks on westerners in Saudi Arabia last May. They say that those arrested are being held on suspicion of providing logistical support to criminal organizations.

DEBKA-Net-Weekly’s counter-terror and intelligence sources report that the arrests were made from information gathered from hundreds of Swiss phone cards used in Rawalpindi from Khalid Sheik Mohammad’s apartment. After US special forces found these cards, a secret investigation began to find the people who Sheik Mohammad spoke to from Rawalpindi. It took 11 months to unearth those in Switzerland.

According to our intelligence sources, the January 9 raid on five Swiss cantons by Switzerland’s federal police supported by a state police task force, led to 20 Arabs being investigated, of whom eight were detained, seven of them Egyptian and one Saudi. According to our sources, they formed the main logistical body that supplied intelligence, explosives, money and forged documents to the al-Qaeda cells operating inside Saudi Arabia as well as to Midaat Mursi and his people.

Our sources understand that the center of the network worked from at least five different houses in Lucerne. In addition, the Swiss authorities, following an American request, seized active bank accounts belonging to al-Qaeda. In one of them, they found 50 million Swiss francs.

A thorough investigation of the eight detainees is now going on in an urgent bid to extract from them all they know about Mursi and his people. American terror experts believe that at least one of the eight detainees should know something about his recent movements and destination.

http://www.debka.com



http://www.stevequayle.com/News.alert/04_Terror/040119.Abu.Kahbab.html

Second item.......

Three men identified as Al Qaeda's weapons of mass destruction committee would likely plan
the attack, said two European intelligence officials and independent experts.

The committee leader is Midhat Mursi, an Egyptian chemical engineer also known as Abu
Khabab. Officials said he is regarded as Al Qaeda's master bomb builder and is one of the
group's most-wanted fugitives — although there have been unconfirmed reports that Mursi is
in U.S. custody.

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=midhat+mursi&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&edition=us&selm=35e17f8af7ce3acdabe1904661484c67%40news.teranews.com&rnum=4


970 posted on 07/12/2004 7:07:44 PM PDT by WestCoastGal (aka Coco~~~~~~>Freeping & Nascar >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How Bad Have You Got It????)
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