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To: Judith Anne; All

Shall do- and I sure hope they give us an inkling of timing!

MEANWHILE- IF YOU GET A CHANCE READ THIS BY NYQUIST:

Re: Plausible deny-ability



"Below are answers I gave to questions relating to my column yesterday on the subject of the al Qaeda nukes:

If / when they detonate nuclear weapons on American soil, don't you think the surviving public will be so outraged that they will insist on reciprocating on a scale without measure?

JRN answer: Many will be outraged, but the dominant emotion will be fear. The realization that we cannot defend ourselves against such a threat, that we don't really know who is attacking us, that the U.S. government has failed, that our intelligence is blind, that the our way of living is incompatible with the reality of WMDs, will unleash revolutionary chaos and the "political machine" in our country will be forced to answer the great questions of the day in favor of the right or left (one way or the other). A continuing slide into the hedonistic live-and-let-live philosophy will not be possible because the question of national orientation and national unity will force itself on everyone's consciousness. The struggle for what that unity will signify will begin immediately. Furthermore, any retaliation against the Muslim world would be a diplomatic mistake fatal to America's chances. Not only a mistake, but we would be striking the wrong people. My own suspicion is that Russia will be the direct author of the grey terror WMD attacks if and when they happen (as they will choose the day and the hour according to their larger strategic plans and WW3 readiness). I don't think al Qaeda has nuclear weapons. I don't think the Russians would ever let them have such weapons unless the persons holding them were Russian agents. I could be wrong about this, but a Russian defector expressed the same view to me nearly six years ago -- and it has intrigued me ever since.

It is my suspicion, following 9/11, that we are being tricked by a diversionary series of attacks or threats, and part of the trick is observable in the length of time taken to inculcate the idea that a WMD attack will come from al Qaeda when it comes. Here is a question you need to ask: Why didn't bin Laden use nuclear weapons on us in 2001? Answer: It was first necessary to saturate us with the idea that Muslim terrorists had such weapons, that they were capable of using them, that they planned to use them after smuggling such weapons out of Russia. THE ONLY REASON TO WAIT to use weapons smuggled in the late 1990s is psychological! We are being conditioned to expect a Muslim WMD attack! But ask yourself: Is al Qaeda is a real world power? And if it isn't, who made it one? If Saddam Hussein could not get his hands on a nuclear weapon, with all his billions in resources, how could bin Laden get twenty such weapons? Answer: it is a fiction meant to divert us from our real enemy. What is the one thing we learned from the Iraq War, that our enemy is constantly reminding us of? America cannot track WMDs! This lesson has not been lost on the Kremlin. Their whole strategy is predicated on this lesson, and now Russia can advance its strategy with the knowledge that we don't have the courage to admit our own ignorance.

If there is an underlying current of sympathizers within those Middle Eastern governments, shouldn't they also be aware that they may soon follow in having nuclear weapons detonated on their soil?

People animated by insane hatred are not rational. While most normal people would prefer peace, abnormal people often prefer war and destruction.


I'd think they'd desperately try to rid themselves of it on the presumption that if the US gets nuked, most of Islam will be nuked in turn. It's hard to think they'd all have a death wish. I would try to find the criminals but I am using a western mindset, not eastern.

Most of Islam would not be nuked. This is not how U.S. policy-makers will respond. We would not nuke Egypt, the largest Arab country (by population). We would not nuke Indonesia, the largest Muslim country (by population). Anyone who thinks we would go off like a raging bull and start nuking countries because of their religious affiliation has not grasped the elements of American political thought under late capitalism.
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3,180 posted on 07/16/2004 10:51:02 AM PDT by jerseygirl
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To: jerseygirl

Interesting, I did read your posted article..


3,188 posted on 07/16/2004 11:08:13 AM PDT by Judith Anne (Just another Bush-bot biddy drinking that Republican KoolAid.)
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To: jerseygirl
If we think that Russia of China supplied the nuke to the terrorist organization that set one off on American soil, then the Chechens or the islamic Chinese counterpart, will acquire a nuke with the same or greater magnitude along with technical and over site help to make sure it ends up in good target in Russia or China.

If China or Russia use a proxy terrorist war to harm America we will do the same. We will respond to nukes or other WMD or we open ourselves up to continued attacks and defeat.

There will also be an overt response against the terrorist organization.

If we feel the nuke came from Pakistan or Iran, there will be a nuke response. We need to take out their nukes anyway.

Basically even if we feel that Russia or China is the big player behind the attack, the islamic world still thinks it is their attack. If we do not retaliate in spades in the islamic world they will think they have won and will continue to attack with impunity. This guy is wrong...there will be a response. We might not know who to target but a target will be found probably one of convince Iranian or Pakistani nuke sites.

3,296 posted on 07/16/2004 2:43:41 PM PDT by Lady Heron
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