Posted on 07/08/2004 7:10:31 AM PDT by doug from upland
Edited on 07/08/2004 2:03:56 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
Jayna Davis, author of THE THIRD TERRORIST, is scheduled today for the Larry Elder show, guest hosted by Doug McIntyre. The time is 3pm Pacific. Then at 6pm Pacific, she will be on this thread to answer questions.
Jayna's work in exposing the Iraqi connection in the OKC bombing has been endorsed by James Woolsey, Dave Schippers, and Frank Gaffney. No, folks, McVeigh and Nichols did not act alone.
If you haven't read the book, please look over the info on the website, particularly the interview done on the Glen Beck show. You can listen to the Larry Elder show online by going to the KABC WEBSITE.
Let's try to make it easy for Jayna. Because I anticipate a busy thread with lots of comments, please use red font to ask questions.
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QUESTION: Jayna, why did Tim McVeigh not rat out his Iraqi pals?
McIntyre says the book has a lot of people talking.
Jayna explains the background of Al-Hussaini.
Besides him, several other Iraqi soldiers come to OKC. They have all been implicated in various stages of the plot.
An Iraqi National who claimed political asylum after the First Gulf War worked with McVeigh and Nichols to blow up the OKC building.
Your book became part of the 9/11 Commission hearings, Jayna.
This is a big hot potato in the 2004 elections. How close were the ties between AQ and Iraq and also Syria, etc.
Jayna:
You've obviously read my book.
The man ID's as John Doe #2 has a distinctive tatoo on his upper arm. I had it analyzed by the (?) intelligence agency. He also looked at Al-Hussaini's immigration records.
Al Hussaini served in the Iraqi Republican Guard and was promoted up the ranks which was at the time based out of Salman Pak which is where the fu selage of the airplane was.
Their primary mission is clandestine operations overseas.
He immigrates to the US and several other soldiers do too - from Iraq's army. They have all been implicated in various stages for working to blow up the Murray Builing.
The soldiers worked for Palestinian businessman who made millions in Sect. 8 housing.
Al Hussaini and others were working for a Palestinian businessman who pleased guilty to business fraud in OK. He was accused to setting fire to homes and collecting illegal ins. proceeds. This business man was suspected of funding (through the illegal proceeds) the intifada and the PLO.
There was a report in the Washington Times a while ago that looked at terrorist funding and Hezbollah owns a huge housing tract in Maryland.
According to classified prior warning, Feb. 27, 1995 --- Congressional Task Force said there would be attack on U.S. Top target was D.C. --- Congress and White House.
I don't have a videotape of Saddam Hussein but it's no secret he wanted revenge on the US for the first Gulf War.
Let's take it a step further. According to a classified prior warning (Chapter 17), on 2/27/1995, the Congressional Task Force on Terrorism issued a warning that there would be an attack on America soil and Washington DC and Congress and the WHite House were at the top of the hit list.
Commercial break...
We need to find out where that is and make sure people there know about it.
The warning from the Congressional Terrorism unit?
At no point of the way were they out of their depth. Wherever Muslims congregate in large numbers, there will be Islamists, and this is the sea in which the terrorists swim, just as Communist agents operated in the sea of worldwide Socialist politics. There are Islamists in Marin County, in East Texas, Laurel in Maryland, and Toronto in Canada. There are MANY of them, and they are not illiterate rejects from the Dark Ages. Mohammed Atta had a masters' degree in architecture. They use email, which many older Americans still have problems with. At one point, al-Qaeda was estimated to operate with a budget in the hundreds of millions of dollars, a sum comparable to the intelligence budget of Israel. They have advanced practical knowledge of explosives (as they have repeatedly demonstrated). They have obtained and experimented with chemical weapons (the first WTC bomb was laced with sodium cyanide), and we all know they would dearly love to get their hands on biological or nuclear ones.
Isn't Jayna a great lady -- and a great American!?!
I think it was the counterterrorism unit.
Jayna speculation -- goes back to task force...they had a prior warning...they beefed up Pennsylvania Ave...terrorists look to softer targets...March 1995, there will be an attack in the heartland...terrorists have cells...task force talked about "lilly whites" to do the job...they would slip through the cracks and not be suspected by law enforcement...they didn't have enough info to stop it...it was a Republican-led task force...Bodansky had come across same suspects independent of Jayna's TV station...Bodansky took possession of evidence and witness statements...documents show multiple witnesses saying chief Middle East suspect went on to work at Logan...speculation is that insiders in food service got the boxcutters on the plane......by the time they could isolate the target, it was too late to save OKC.....is this being covered up to save some prominent Republicans....
Larry: Book The Third Terrorist is a fascinating read. Questions that have been on my mind:
1) there have always been conspiracy theories the Clinton admin. wanted to cover up the M.E. connection and put it squarely on white supremecy groups. If there's a direct connection to Iraq/AQ, why wouldn't the Bush admin, whose hands are clean, why wouldn't they want to brint this out?
Jayne:
My three part answer. This is theory and speculation and it's the ? everone wants answered.
Here you have the COngressional Terrorism Task Force clearly state they are going to attack D.C. Everyone blocks off the WHite House and Capitol. The terrorists decide to go after softer targets. Now the Task Force says the attack will be in the heart of the country and OK was one of 12 cities put on alert.
They had info they recruited two Lily WHites. Lily WHites fly below the law enforcement radar screen and are non-Muslim and no criminal records.
It was House Republican Task Force that had the info. The Director is Bodansky. Bodansky came across the same suspects independent of me. I had no idea. I didn't contact him until '98.
The Republicans were going to hold hearings. But they didn't. The man ID'd in all those documents was working at Logan Airport as John Doe #2 had a nervous breakdown and was living with two ex Iraqi soldiers who worked in catering at Logan Airport. They were working there on 9/11 and that's how they think the box cutters got on the plane.
Al Hussaini told his psychiatrists if anything happened at Logan he'd be blamed.
Political spin is that the Republicans would be blamed and dots weren't connected.
Hey! That's my neck of the woods!
Any clue as to where, exactly?
Memo to self: buy more -- lots more -- ammo...
Under former administration, they sent Jayna home. According to D.C. assistant attorney, that could be obstruction of justice.
Doug asks about white supremacy views of McVeigh. Why would he work with dark-skinned Iraqis. McVeigh criticized our government for bombing Iraq. He was unhappy that we sent Tomahawks after Sudan barracks bombing.
Looks like Jayna is staying right on message...
Jayna says it was rubber-stamped prosecution. Nichols looked like a dupe, but his meetings in the Philippines with terrorist bomb makers was never mentioned in trial. The connection was made in Richard Clarke's book.
Larry: Considering the political heat the admin. is taking and that they lied, it would seem for poltiical reasons it would be in their best interest to take your book and say it should be read by every American.
Jayne:
I was told there is another reason. They don't want the scandal. According to one of the Assistant US Attorney - the FBI's role could constitute miscarriage of justice.
Larry: McVeigh appears to have been a racist. Had the Turner Diaries. What was he doing with Muslims.
Jayna: His personal writing shows he defended Saddam's right to have WMD and condemned the US for going to war in Iraq. He was outraged we sent tomahawk missiles into Sudan to retaliate for the African bombings.
Nichols was never offered a deal to tell all he knows. (Also, he has a family he's worried about - my words).
Nichols looked like a dupe in McVeighs control when in fact Nichols connections with AQ and meeting with mastermind of the first WTC bombing. She's quoting Richard Clarke, former chief of terrorism to Clinton and it's in his book Against all Enemies.
Phone calls coming up...
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