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Teachers union calls for defeat of Bush - "Fahrenheit 9/11" showing at convention
Washington Times ^ | July 5, 2004 | George Archibald

Posted on 07/05/2004 12:52:37 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: Cincinatus' Wife

But the NEA is nonpartison, you know.

Just ask them.


61 posted on 07/05/2004 5:25:58 AM PDT by Skooz (My Biography: Psalm 40:1-3)
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To: Peach
David Horowitz is working with members of Congress to introduce legislation that would require a more fair and balanced curriculum in colleges; it looks like he should take a look at the lower grades as well.

His personal turf is academia, but I believe it all starts first at home, then in primary and secondary school. I admit though that college professors are openly leftist and definitely anti-Republican. However, students routinely choose their college. This isn't true for primary and secondary school, since most parents aren't about to buy one school for the price of two.

The only answer is to abolish public schools. That's the goal we should strive for. It would likely reduce leftist indoctrination and would DEFINITELY improve the quality of education.

62 posted on 07/05/2004 5:29:08 AM PDT by beavus
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

63 posted on 07/05/2004 5:38:29 AM PDT by Musket
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I've been wondering if the union has been spending dues money buying tickets to this. Inquiring minds want to know...


64 posted on 07/05/2004 5:40:21 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"There is no way around it: No Child Left Behind forces us to spend money we don't have, on programs we don't need, to get results that don't matter."

???Hummmmmm...like educating teachers so they can educate your children...being forced to spend money on students? Why I never heard of such a silly thing! The NEA oposes Ron Paige because he nailed that organization and called it what it is and he is right!

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The NEA is akin to the Brown Shirts of Germany, it is a political arm of Socialism.

65 posted on 07/05/2004 5:43:14 AM PDT by yoe
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To: Pontiac
This is good the Teacher’s Union showing a film which is a string of deliberate falsehoods.

This is FR. You're allowed to say, "lies."

66 posted on 07/05/2004 6:23:56 AM PDT by zeebee
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To: goldstategop

Our tax dollars should not support this DNC political organ. If this union had to depend on truly voluntary membership and dues they would vanish, and they should.


67 posted on 07/05/2004 7:01:13 AM PDT by Constitutional Patriot (George W. Bush is a leader and John Kerry is not.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

You can't do anything about it . We have what is called a "closed shop"!! If you don't pay the full dues because you don't want to belong to the union you still have to pay 85% because they do all the barganing for you . On top of that you become a sitting target for a toilet fish principal or supervisor if you don't have union representation.


68 posted on 07/05/2004 7:02:41 AM PDT by Renegade
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To: Flyer

I did not infer that YOU were the problem ..Also you can't quit . Look up what closed shop means . On top of that, if you don't have the union representation you are a sitting duck for stupid administrators who salivate at the chance to cut the ranks of teachers that have my core values .


69 posted on 07/05/2004 7:05:22 AM PDT by Renegade
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To: rogator

I was the county treasurer for the union for seven years. It really pi$$ed them off when I would be at the officer's table durinf monthly meetings and had copies of Limbaugh's books sitting in front of me ..


70 posted on 07/05/2004 7:08:05 AM PDT by Renegade
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To: kenth; CatoRenasci; Marie; PureSolace; Congressman Billybob; P.O.E.; cupcakes; Amelia; Diana; ...

71 posted on 07/05/2004 7:08:39 AM PDT by Born Conservative ("Nothing wrong with shooting as long as the right people get shot" - Dirty Harry)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Yesterday, union officials distributed 10,000 fliers to individual state caucuses informing them that filmmaker Michael Moore's anti-Bush film, "Fahrenheit 9/11," would be shown to delegates in the convention hall tomorrow immediately after Mr. Kerry's speech.

This constitutes a tacit endorsement by Kerry of the Goebbels-like propaganda that Moore has made. The depths to which the Democrats will go to regain power remain unplumbed.

And just remember this. The same lockstep leftist loonies who will be watching Moore's crap at the NEA convention are teaching your children or grandchildren. Thank goodness my kids are homeschooled!

72 posted on 07/05/2004 7:14:45 AM PDT by Spiff (Don't believe everything you think.)
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To: Finalapproach29er
Republicans control the government !!!!!!!!!!! Take away the tax-exempt status of these lenin-libs. Break up the education monopoly.

You're right. It is well past time for the Republicans to start playing hardball with this domestic axis of evil.

73 posted on 07/05/2004 7:19:18 AM PDT by Spiff (Don't believe everything you think.)
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To: Renegade
You can't do anything about it . We have what is called a "closed shop"!! If you don't pay the full dues because you don't want to belong to the union you still have to pay 85% because they do all the barganing for you . On top of that you become a sitting target for a toilet fish principal or supervisor if you don't have union representation.

Why has it not become obvious to you that you need to teach somewhere else or to find another line of work entirely ?

74 posted on 07/05/2004 7:28:07 AM PDT by Spiff (Don't believe everything you think.)
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To: Flyer

Obviously, Flyer, you do not understand how employment in school districts works. Many schools are closed shops and you have no choice but to join the union - or not teach. When you just spent $40,000 in college tuition in training to be a teacher , that is an impossible choice.

So you say "quit" - if a teacher with more than a year or two of experience quits they will not be hired by a different district because they are too expensive. Because of the union rules, we cannot negotiate to take a smaller salary just to get hired. We carry our longivity pay with us. This is the rule that keeps many military spouses from teaching.

Since administrators jump on conservative teachers like a chickens on bugs, conservative teachers are very quiet.

BUT - we can donate time and money privately and that is where teachers need to get active. We can volunteer at phone banks to help get the word out about President Bush. We can work out of our homes anominously. Just contact your local Bush headquarters and explain your situation!!!!

Get creative out there teachers!!!! We must stand up to the NEA and AFT and the Kerry Campaign!!!!


75 posted on 07/05/2004 7:34:00 AM PDT by Martins kid
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To: Pontiac
With few exceptions, union conventioneers are going to love this film.

Now wait just a minute here and think this through


With a few exceptions Americans support
prayer in schools
the phrase "In God We Trust"
Christmas displays in public places
Christmas carols in schools
Life starting at conception

It's the double standards that just get ya isn't it?

76 posted on 07/05/2004 7:40:18 AM PDT by SoftballMominVA
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Whenever I hear someone in a crowd who is rude, obnoxious, elitist and talks with this air of superiority, I will think that person a teacher. Sure enough, 9 times out of 10, I am correct. My children are in awe. How do you know Mom? I tell them, anyone who speaks with this air of knowing it all but do not have a clue to anything is sadly 9 times out of 10 a teacher and always a democrat/liberal/progressive/socialist/communist(whatever they call themselves today).
77 posted on 07/05/2004 7:51:01 AM PDT by Two-Bits (God Bless the USA and all who love her)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I read the overall writ of the "No Child Left Behind Act" (but not all the details behind the doc). Month ago I got to talk with a couple of teachers -- Democrats, and from different states. They hated the NCLBA. Naturally, I asked why. Here's what they told me:

The "No Child Left Behind Act" does not fund the typical liberal causes (gayness, feminism, racism, new math, new "english"); it funds for solid academic subjects. If schools wish to do these other programs (conflict resolution, cooperative learning, etc.) -- the schools have to come up with the funding themselves. So. Hard core solid subjects is "programs we don't need", "spending money we don't have" (for programs liberals and marxists wish to teach YOUR children); "to get results that don't matter" (feelings are far more important than knowledge or literacy).

Sure, I tried to bring up "literacy" issues, the important of science.. however, what I got in response from these teachers on the subject of math/sci/literacy required my very best poker face to listen to. Mind you; I'm repeating the hearsay of these teachers. And this is what they were told by their "leaders".

78 posted on 07/05/2004 8:00:22 AM PDT by Alia
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Sending our kids to these union schools is no better than having them attend radical Muslim indoctrinations at the local Mosque.


79 posted on 07/05/2004 9:22:55 AM PDT by Piquaboy
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I've said before and say again, the National Edukashun Association is the greatest enemy of education and the future of this nation, that exists within our borders today. These people are wh*res, plain and simple. Their sole interest is the money that flows into their pockets -- both individual and union. The children be damned, the public be damned, the future be damned.

The fact that they are showing and implicitly praising Michael Moore's modern equivalent of Triumph of the Will is icing in the cake, if any be needed, that the NEA is both corrupt and dangerous. And I have a practical suggestion to approach that problem. FreeRepublic should make a special effort to invite into our discussions people who are public school teachers and who see the danger that the NEA represents to all of us.

Congressman Billybob

"Something Stupid This Way Comes"

80 posted on 07/05/2004 9:36:10 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob (www.ArmorforCongress.com Visit. Join. Help. Please.)
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