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Little Hominid May Have Been Failed Experiment
Science - Reuters ^ | 2004-07-01 | Maggie Fox

Posted on 07/01/2004 12:22:40 PM PDT by Junior

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To: Junior

Findings like this make me wonder: Just how many human "sub-species" have there been? How many of them completely disappeared, leaving no trace, and how many were absorbed into the genetic group we call "Homo Sapiens?" After all, if the Neanderthals could have been absorbed by our ancestors (as some believe), what about other groups of sort-of-humans?


41 posted on 07/01/2004 12:54:40 PM PDT by Modernman ("I don't care to belong to a club that accepts people like me as members" -Groucho Marx)
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To: California74
How do they know it wasn't some ancient tribal "shrinking" ritual?

Heads are shrunken by removing the skull in little pieces over a period of time. If this were the result of a "shrinking" ritual, it wouldn't exist.

42 posted on 07/01/2004 12:54:58 PM PDT by Junior (FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC)
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To: Modernman

American Indians were on their way to be a separate subspecies, being reproductively isolated -- until those damnable Vikings wandered by...


43 posted on 07/01/2004 12:58:55 PM PDT by Junior (FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC)
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To: Junior
"became separate and distinct for a while, and then came together every few thousand years or so, swapping genes and then parting ways again. "

They must have been very scientifically advanced to even know what genes were. Unless it's a misspelling and he meant "jeans".

44 posted on 07/01/2004 1:04:01 PM PDT by bayourod (Can the 9/11 Commission connect the dots on Iraq or do they require a 3-D picture?)
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To: PJ-Comix

Post of the day. I have diet coke up my nose, you b*stard.


45 posted on 07/01/2004 1:07:00 PM PDT by SoDak
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To: bayourod

Considering any moronic welfare queen can swap genes effectively, I'm not sure this requires any advanced science.


46 posted on 07/01/2004 1:10:34 PM PDT by Junior (FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC)
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To: Junior
American Indians were on their way to be a separate subspecies, being reproductively isolated -- until those damnable Vikings wandered by...

The same is probably true for the inhabitants of Africa, south of the Sahara. And for the natives of Australia. And probably other groups. It was the development of ocean-going ships that ended everyone's genetic isolation. Then railroads, then planes. Nowadays, you can swap genes all over the planet during a two-week vacation.

47 posted on 07/01/2004 1:12:00 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas.)
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To: Junior
American Indians were on their way to be a separate subspecies, being reproductively isolated -- until those damnable Vikings wandered by...

I've read that Australian Aborigines are genetically different enough from other people that breeding with non- Aborigines is difficult, leading to a very high rate of miscarriage.

As we learn more about the human genome, I wonder what we'll discover about various genetically-isolated groups of humans.

48 posted on 07/01/2004 1:13:51 PM PDT by Modernman ("I don't care to belong to a club that accepts people like me as members" -Groucho Marx)
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To: Junior

Prehistoric dwarf-tossing gone wrong, maybe?


49 posted on 07/01/2004 1:14:47 PM PDT by RichInOC (Ronald Wilson Reagan, 2/6/11-6/5/04, R.I.P.)
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To: Junior

Or, even more interestingly, I wonder what will happen when (if?) humans spread to other planets.


50 posted on 07/01/2004 1:16:00 PM PDT by Modernman ("I don't care to belong to a club that accepts people like me as members" -Groucho Marx)
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To: Modernman

They're extinct now, but the natives of Tasmania were morphologically different from other modern humans. I'm not sure there are any part-blood Tasmanians out there, which means they could not breed with others (though they were unattractive enough that this may have been an aesthetic thing).


51 posted on 07/01/2004 1:16:58 PM PDT by Junior (FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC)
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To: Modernman
I wonder what we'll discover about various genetically-isolated groups of humans.

Every little valley has a story to tell. For example: The Blue People of Troublesome Creek.

52 posted on 07/01/2004 1:18:05 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas.)
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To: Junior
"Failed Experiment" ping.


53 posted on 07/01/2004 1:19:20 PM PDT by cinFLA
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To: plain talk

Good point. I don't know much about anthropology, but it does seem that whenever they find a human fossil, they assume the find is typical of the culture at the time. What if, by the laws of random chance, the two people alive today whose fossils get preserved are Shaquille O' Neil and Robert Reich?

In one million years, the textbooks might be saying "In the primitive globalization era, humans consisted of two tribes: giants and pygmies. We suspect they were at war most of the time."


54 posted on 07/01/2004 1:20:43 PM PDT by Our man in washington
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To: Junior

It is Bush's fault!


55 posted on 07/01/2004 1:22:33 PM PDT by Redleg Duke (Stir the pot...don't let anything settle to the bottom where the lawyers can feed off of it!)
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To: Junior

Wow! 55 posts and I'm the first to suggest the obvious -- it was an alien.

Duh.


56 posted on 07/01/2004 1:27:22 PM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Crom!)
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To: Our man in washington

> it does seem that whenever they find a human fossil, they assume the find is typical of the culture at the time.

Statistically valid, and generally supported by further evidence. When you find a fossil *anything*, the greatest likelyhood is that it is a more or less average example of whatever it is.

Heck, doesn't even need to be a fossill... just pick a human (or cow, or cat, whatever) at random, and chances are pretty good that it'll be pretty representative.


57 posted on 07/01/2004 1:28:35 PM PDT by orionblamblam
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To: Modernman

My understanding is that Neanderthals were sufficiently distinct from modern humans so that interbreeding (and absorption) could not occur.


58 posted on 07/01/2004 1:35:48 PM PDT by bagman
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To: ScottFromSpokane

No hobbits in Africa.

Hobbits live in areas that look deceptively like the midlands in Africa.

Since this is in a volcanic ridge it has to be one of the discards of the evil one.


59 posted on 07/01/2004 1:36:28 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED ( Public Serivce announcement for Kerry supporters::GO CHENEY YOURSELF)
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To: ScottFromSpokane

No hobbits in Africa.

Hobbits live in areas that look deceptively like the midlands in England..

Since this is in a volcanic ridge it has to be one of the discards of the evil one.

Quick correction. I saw the error as I hit the post button. It was too late to recall. I am a fool.


60 posted on 07/01/2004 1:37:30 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED ( Public Serivce announcement for Kerry supporters::GO CHENEY YOURSELF)
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