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Canadian Election--6/28 Live Thread
Various | 6/28/04 | Free Republic

Posted on 06/28/2004 2:51:25 AM PDT by conservative in nyc

The Canadian election is today. If the most recent polls are correct, the Conservative Party of Canada may win more seats in Canada's House of Commons, setting the stage for a Conservative minority government. A new day may be dawning in Canada. But the election is going to be close.

Please use this thread for any early election articles that pop-up over the course of the day, predictions and news analysis, and, of course, the actual results as they come in.

Also, please post links to Canadian elections result sites here.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Canada; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: canada; electioncanada; harper; martin
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To: conservative in nyc

Yep, I can see that happening just as easily as some of the other predictions. Let's just cross our fingers for a Harper majority so that our northern neighbors don't have to worry about another election for 4 years.


61 posted on 06/28/2004 12:06:00 PM PDT by GiveEmDubya (We Need a New Reagan Revolution)
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To: El Conservador

'Conservative Party' Bump!


62 posted on 06/28/2004 12:08:27 PM PDT by BluSky (“Don’t make me come down there.”)
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To: Great Dane

election ping


63 posted on 06/28/2004 12:46:29 PM PDT by DTA
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To: DTA

Nothern Neighbors BUMP!


64 posted on 06/28/2004 1:00:43 PM PDT by jmstein7 (A Judge not bound to the original meaning of the Constitution interprets nothing but his own mind.)
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To: All
Final Shorcan futures results:
4:00 PM

Liberals
Bid 31.9
Offer 32.9
Change -0.40

Conservatives
Bid 31.6
Offer 32.6
Change +0.10

NDP
Bid 17.3
Offer 17.8
Change +0.10

Bloc
Bid 11.4
Offer 11.9
Change +0.40

Green
Bid 4.8
Offer 5.3
Change +0.10
65 posted on 06/28/2004 1:26:14 PM PDT by conservative in nyc
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To: DTA

BLAME CANADA!


66 posted on 06/28/2004 1:33:59 PM PDT by proudpapa (of three.)
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To: conservative in nyc

What is that (in #65)? Gambling odds or something?


67 posted on 06/28/2004 1:38:24 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: conservative in nyc

I'm heading out to vote now for Jim Gouk - Southern Interior.

Your set of numbers looks about right, but Ontario could tip more towards Tory blue if they try. ;^)

Go, Harper! Confusion to the Liberals! God save the Queen!


68 posted on 06/28/2004 1:44:19 PM PDT by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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To: headsonpikes

We're trying, beleive me!!!


69 posted on 06/28/2004 1:46:01 PM PDT by fanfan (" The liberal party is not corrupt " Prime Minister Paul Martin)
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To: conservative in nyc
I have a feeling from the context that this is a stupid question, but please, humour me:

What is a 'riding?'

70 posted on 06/28/2004 1:47:44 PM PDT by Petronski (I'm **NOT** always **CRANKY**.)
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To: conservative in nyc

Less than 2 hours until the first closings BUMP.


71 posted on 06/28/2004 2:13:34 PM PDT by GiveEmDubya (We Need a New Reagan Revolution)
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To: Petronski

Canada "Riding" = One of our "Congressional Districts". They're called "Constituencies" in the UK and "Electorates" in Australia.


72 posted on 06/28/2004 2:16:42 PM PDT by GiveEmDubya (We Need a New Reagan Revolution)
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To: GiveEmDubya

The key is turnout. Paul Martin sounded desperate after a cross country dash yesterday. If Canadians are going to confound the pollsters, its going to be in the turnout. That means a really huge Conservative turnout. It may make a lot of difference in ridings in which there's the chance to score an upset cause Liberal voters are sitting the election out. After all, in a too close to call election such as this one, every vote literally counts.


73 posted on 06/28/2004 2:42:26 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Petronski

A riding is a electoral district.


74 posted on 06/28/2004 2:44:21 PM PDT by xp38
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To: Petronski

A previous poster was on the right track, a riding was originally defined as the area that could be covered in a day by a rider on horseback.


75 posted on 06/28/2004 2:52:29 PM PDT by Signboy (fore on the right!)
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To: goldstategop

I'm following the Free Dominion turnout thread. There's signs of strong turnout and a tremor of Conservative support; quoth a political hack, "something is happening out there."

We'll start knowing with the NL results in over an hour.


76 posted on 06/28/2004 2:53:58 PM PDT by GiveEmDubya (We Need a New Reagan Revolution)
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To: GiveEmDubya

Keep sending the prayers.


77 posted on 06/28/2004 2:55:22 PM PDT by xp38
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To: xp38

On their way.

I hope Stephen Harper has a VICTORY sppech ready...!


78 posted on 06/28/2004 3:03:16 PM PDT by GiveEmDubya (We Need a New Reagan Revolution)
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To: conservative in nyc
I proudly present to y'all the handicap on today's election, the authority on all things Canadiana, none other than the Freeper favorite, the initimate Mark Steyn! Enjoy:

ELECTION DAY 2004

Paul Martin spent the final days of his shabby campaign attempting to argue that a vote for the NDP is a vote for the Conservatives, a vote for the Bloc is a vote for the Conservatives, a vote for the Greens is a vote for the Conservatives…

Almost right, Prime Minister. In a nutshell, a vote for anybody but the Liberals is a vote for anybody but the Liberals.

And that’s what matters. Today’s election needs to be an act of political hygiene – a repudiation of the waste and cronyism of the one-party state. If Canadians chicken out, we’ll be colluding in the degradation of our democracy. I agree with Jack Layton on this: make a positive vote. If you’re a socialist, vote socialist. If you’re a separatist, vote separatist. As for the hollow man's hollow threats, the Martin argument is particularly loathsome this time round: thanks to our election laws, the votes your party receives today will determine the public money they get at the next election. I dislike the idea of state-funded parties, but, given that those are the rules, there’s no reason to give the Grits yet another institutional advantage. If you’re an NDPer and you cast a tactical vote for the Liberals, you’re ensuring they’ll have even more dough to squash your guys next time round. And next time could come pretty soon.

And, indeed, one of the advantages of the present situation is that there’s no such thing as a wasted vote. If we really are in minority government territory, then every party, every riding, every member counts. Likewise, every vote the Liberals don’t get is a lesson to them. In that respect, I’d urge conservatives in my province of Quebec not to get stampeded into stringing along with the stale notion that the Grits are the only viable “federalist” party. The Bloc will have a good night, and they deserve it – M Duceppe has fought an effective campaign – but if you’re a conservative, whether in the Liberal enclaves of Montreal or the Bloquiste heartland, cast a vote for Harper’s guy and do your bit to establish the party as a credible federalist alternative.

The Liberals’ other line has been the one I predicted a few months back, the one borrowed from the 2002 French Presidential election: Vote for the crooks, not the Fascists. Stephen Harper’s Conservatives are not exactly right-wing red meat for the likes of me, but that’s okay – you can’t shift the assumptions of decades overnight, or even within one term. So vote for the Fascists, or the Commies, or the Traitors, or even the Eco-loonies. But not the Crooks.

I’m hoping for a Conservative majority on Tuesday morning, but, if that’s not possible, the temporary chaos of a splintered House of Commons is better than the remorseless decay of continued Liberal rule. I’ll be up late tonight filing a late election column for The Western Standard and we’ll be giving away tons of prizes to lucky competition winners tomorrow morning. Even if Canada's the loser, you could be a big winner.

PS You want predictions? Okay...

LIB
CON
NDP
BQ
IND

NF

4 LIB
3 CON

PE

3 LIB
1 CON

NS

3 CON
6 LIB
2 NDP

NB

4 CON
5 LIB
1 NDP

PQ

22 LIB
53 BQ

ON

62 LIB
38 CON
6 NDP

MB

3 LIB
7 CON
4 NDP

SK

2 NDP
11 CON
1 LIB

AL

28 CON

BC
3 NDP
31 CON
1 LIB
1 IND

NV

1 LIB

NW

1 LIB

YT

1 LIB

At the end of the night:

Conservatives 131
Liberals 108
Bloc 53
NDP 15
Independent 1

...and her vice-regal eminence gets her moment in the spotlight.

79 posted on 06/28/2004 3:13:12 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: GiveEmDubya

Check out my Mark Steyn column in Post #79. Thanks.


80 posted on 06/28/2004 3:14:35 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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