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To: yankeedame; CourtneyLeigh
Well, put me down as one of the not-educated-enough. Because even with the aid of a dictionary or two, I have no idea re: the defination of "telmarine".

C. S. Lewis' Chronicles of Narnia is about a magical kingdom populated by talking animals and mythical creatures. In the first book four children from England travel there and become the rulers, ruling for years and years in Narnian time before returning home and finding no time has passed in our world at all.

In the second book they go back to Narnia, where even more time has passed. The native Narnians (talking animals, dwarves, etc.) have been driven into hiding by a group of humans called Telmarines (because they came from "Telmar"). Narnia is essentially under foreign Telmarine occupation. Eventually the four children, along with Prince Caspian, a "good Telmarine," and Aslan, the lion "gxd" of Narnia, liberate Narnia and the Narnian creatures come out of hiding. From then on they live in the open in peace, along with good Telmarines who accept the new order.

Aslan offers to send the "bad" Telmarines back home, but it turns out that the Telmarines left Telmar so long ago that they have absolutely no memory of it and would be just as much "foreigners" there as in Narnia. But Aslan says, no, I mean your real home. It turns out the "Telmarines" aren't even really from Telmar. They're the descendants of pirates from out own world who went through some sort of dimensional gate and wound up on Telmare (in Narnia's world) and eventually set out from there to conquer that world.

This is why I believe Lewis' being a Protestant Anglo-Ulsterman figured into his creation of these people. He was a foreigner in the land of his birth (Belfast) because he wasn't "indigenous" to Ireland. The Anglo-Saxons are the real life Telmarines because they have swarmed to the corners of the earth and conquered and made their homes there with no memory of their ancestral homeland. In fact, "England" (which was named for the Angles and not vice versa) was merely another place invaded by them in their migrations, having come there from the coasts of the North Sea on the European continent.

The Anglo-Saxons are the world's only abstract, non-ethnic people. Our purpose in life seems to be to make everyone else look quaint and culturally rich in comparison. Funny how we are accused of thinking we are "superior" since we are the only people in the world who aren't constantly invoking some ancient national lineage.

I hate being an Anglo-Saxon. At least England could have the decency to secede from the UK and give us a theoretical ethnic point of origin. As it is now, "England" doesn't even legally exist (unlike Wales, Scotland, and Northern Ireland).

Now you know one more reason for my "Redneck Rastafarianism" (in which Israel becomes a mystical homeland for us much as Ethiopia does for the real r*st*f*rians).

Just one more reason for us homeless, ethnicity-less, and culture-less poor Anglo Bible thumpers to support Israel.

169 posted on 06/27/2004 12:21:20 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Hinneh, mah tov umah na`im shevet 'achim gam-yachad!)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
Give some time to get back to you on that one!

Amen toward the latter statement!

I understand now, much better, the English are like the Jews, scattered amongst the world, but unlike the "jews" (not the real Israelites), the English have no anchor or absolute foundation. Right?

170 posted on 06/27/2004 12:33:13 PM PDT by CourtneyLeigh (Why can't all of America be Commonwealth?)
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