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"After the sack of sacred Ilium that society collapsed."

"Similarly, Islamists are immersed in a primitive theistic mindset. God is responsible for all things. It is through the will of Allah that everything happens and in the name of Allah that they commit the most heinous crimes imaginable. Allah is as real to them as Zeus, Poseidon and Ares were to the warriors before the walls of Troy."

Given the above truths which you relate, I cannot believe that you can draw the conclusion that, "...it will only be an ethic of reason and the subjugation of whims to thoughtful reflection that can lead those cultures and their people back to enlightenment and free their imaginations and creativity so they can lead truly human lives." To me, this is the ultimate non sequitur.

As much as I hate to say it (considering myself a civilized man), I think the logical extention of your initial observations would be to immediately NUKE Medina and Mecca. Only then will these barbarians truely understand the will of Allah!

Today the backwards cultures in most Islamic countries are dominated by anger, violence and superstition. And it will only be an ethic of reason and the subjugation of whims to thoughtful reflection that can lead those cultures and their people back to enlightenment and free their imaginations and creativity so they can lead truly human lives.

Once they've had their d*cks knocked into the dirt!

Once Mecca is destroyed, then they can get on with rebuilding their "religion".

"Given the above truths which you relate, I cannot believe that you can draw the conclusion that, "...it will only be an ethic of reason and the subjugation of whims to thoughtful reflection that can lead those cultures and their people back to enlightenment and free their imaginations and creativity so they can lead truly human lives." To me, this is the ultimate non sequitur. As much as I hate to say it (considering myself a civilized man), I think the logical extention of your initial observations would be to immediately NUKE Medina and Mecca. Only then will these barbarians truely understand the will of Allah!"

Worked for the Japanese sure enough. Two well-placed nukes put a swift end to their frenzied kamikaze style attacks. Now they're kittens to us.