Posted on 06/25/2004 11:53:02 AM PDT by Momaw Nadon
Moore's film probably presents A.N.S.W.E.R.'s talking points essentially un-altered to the American public. It will be resoundingly applauded by democrats, socialists, the A.N.S.W.E.R. radicals and other subversives. It will also be snikered at by the elite media players, who profess not to be of Moore's ilk, yet have over the years shown that they agree with his views on issue after issue.
Knowing what Moore, his film and what he and these people stand for, it's hard to understand how they can contain their anger, and hatred for what America is.
If these people continue to get their way, I pitty the inhabitants of this nation.
Somewhere I recently heard that the movie was focus-group tested with a bunch of undecided voters. After viewing the film the vast majority had made up their minds they were going to vote for Kerry. I don't remember details or source, so I can't say if the focus group was legit or just another piece of propaganda put forth by Moore.
In any event, after seeing the movie, what are your thoughts as to how truly undecided voters will respond to the film. Will they be seduced by Moore's message, or is it so one-sided as to be off-putting?
My biggest concern about this film isn't what it does at the box office. My real concern is whether this film will make it to video/DVD just in time for the November election. I expect only the already converted will see the movie at the theater. The merely curious who rent it are the ones I'm more worried about.
Nice try newbie. Go back to DU.
That is what moore said he was making.
16 May, 1918
The U.S. Sedition Act
United States, Statutes at Large, Washington, D.C., 1918, Vol. XL, pp 553 ff.
A portion of the amendment to Section 3 of the Espionage Act of June 15, 1917.
SECTION 3. Whoever, when the United States is at war, shall willfully make or convey false reports or false statements with intent to interfere with the operation or success of the military or naval forces of the United States, or to promote the success of its enemies, or shall willfully make or convey false reports, or false statements, . . . or incite insubordination, disloyalty, mutiny, or refusal of duty, in the military or naval forces of the United States, or shall willfully obstruct . . . the recruiting or enlistment service of the United States, or . . . shall willfully utter, print, write, or publish any disloyal, profane, scurrilous, or abusive language about the form of government of the United States, or the Constitution of the United States, or the military or naval forces of the United States . . . or shall willfully display the flag of any foreign enemy, or shall willfully . . . urge, incite, or advocate any curtailment of production . . . or advocate, teach, defend, or suggest the doing of any of the acts or things in this section enumerated and whoever shall by word or act support or favor the cause of any country with which the United States is at war or by word or act oppose the cause of the United States therein, shall be punished by a fine of not more than $10,000 or imprisonment for not more than twenty years, or both....
I do have to admit that I'm a little impressed at how Moore is taking the Left for a ride.
Undecided voters without the ability of critical thought can be easily seduced.
The movie is one-sided, but not wholly so. It mixes in half-truths. As for it being off-putting, it may be to some, but Moore protects against this by his insidious and clever use of humor.
I am seninf Good Day Live an email to tell them I will never watch them again because of their promotion today of Micheal Moore, the hate america pig. Also, I wanted a list of all of their advertisers.
Trust me they feared us watching ... The Passion
I will never give a dime of my money or time to such lowlife socialist groups. As a matter of fact, I am boycotting Hollywood. My family will go bowling tonight.
Isn't America great? We give full rights to people who are hell bent on destroying our country.
I will never see this film, because I'd end up screaming at the screen.
Here is more his fat ass is guilty of:
SECTION 1. Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America, in Congress assembled, That if any persons shall unlawfully combine or conspire together, with intent to oppose any measure or measures of the government of the United States, which are or shall be directed by proper authority, or to impede the operation of any law of the United States, or to intimidate or prevent any person holding a place or office in or under the government of the United States, from undertaking, performing or executing his trust or duty, and if any person or persons, with intent as aforesaid, shall counsel, advise or attempt to procure any insurrection, riot, unlawful assembly, or combination, whether such conspiracy, threatening, counsel, advice, or attempt shall have the proposed effect or not, he or they shall be deemed guilty of a high misdemeanor, and on conviction, before any court of the United States having jurisdiction thereof, shall be punished by a fine not exceeding five thousand dollars, and by imprisonment during a term not less than six months nor exceeding five years; and further, at the discretion of the court may be ho]den to find sureties for his good behaviour in such sum, and for such time, as the said court may direct.
SEC. 2. And be it farther enacted, That if any person shall write, print, utter or publish, or shall cause or procure to be written, printed, uttered or published, or shall knowingly and willingly assist or aid in writing, printing, uttering or publishing any false, scandalous and malicious writing or writings against the government of the United States, or either house of the Congress of the United States, or the President of the United States, with intent to defame the said government, or either house of the said Congress, or the said President, or to bring them, or either of them, into contempt or disrepute; or to excite against them, or either or any of them, the hatred of the good people of the United States, or to stir up sedition within the United States, or to excite any unlawful combinations therein, for opposing or resisting any law of the United States, or any act of the President of the United States, done in pursuance of any such law, or of the powers in him vested by the constitution of the United States, or to resist, oppose, or defeat any such law or act, or to aid, encourage or abet any hostile designs of any foreign nation against United States, their people or government, then such person, being thereof convicted before any court of the United States having jurisdiction thereof, shall be punished by a fine not exceeding two thousand dollars, and by imprisonment not exceeding two years.
SEC. 3. And be it further enacted and declared, That if any person shall be prosecuted under this act, for the writing or publishing any libel aforesaid, it shall be lawful for the defendant, upon the trial of the cause, to give in evidence in his defence, the truth of the matter contained in Republication charged as a libel. And the jury who shall try the cause, shall have a right to determine the law and the fact, under the direction of the court, as in other cases.
SEC. 4. And be it further enacted, That this act shall continue and be in force until the third day of March, one thousand eight hundred and one, and no longer: Provided, that the expiration of the act shall not prevent or defeat a prosecution and punishment of any offence against the law, during the time it shall be in force.
APPROVED, July 14, 1798.
I believe that the Dems are playing a stupid game with this movie (stupider than usual, anyway). They're not going to turn Bush voters into Kerry voters, but they might actually turn Kerry voters into Nader voters. The "swing" voters who are actually plugged in; paying attention to the issues, aren't going to buy this rabid drivel. Swing voters are generally moderates, and this movie won't entice any moderates leftward.
That said, this film is political advertising and is a political donation, and should be subject to the restrictions of CFR.
To give you the benefit of the doubt, you might not be aware that there ARE restrictions on free speech. It's called Campaign Finance Reform, and this movie is a clear violation of the same. And what "claims" are correct, since everyone who knows their facts (even the 9-11 commission) has already debunked them? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm?
FWIW...in Nashville, this propaganda piece is showing at ONE theater only. I think Nashville is around the 30th largest city in the country. At any rate, the hit piece is sold out for 2 shows this evening; however, no shows for tomorrow are sold out. Not a raving success, IMO.
Great for a "documentary"...but far from even the most stupid Ben Stiller movie.
This will wet the panties of the leftist crowd...and change not one vote.
But my point was that not a lot of people go to see documentaries. Moore is the big fish in that small world.
His movie will not have any effect on the general population. His audience is comprised of people who wouldn't vote for a Republican with a gun to their head.
Moore has commented to Euro audiences on several occasions that the American people are "dumb"
From MSNBC:
On his international book tour, the author of “Dude, Where’s My Country?” was asked what he thought of Americans. “They are possibly the dumbest people on the planet ... in thrall to conniving, thieving, smug pricks,” he replied.Producing a film full of half-truths presented out of context, logical fallacies and non-sequitirs to people you hold in such low intellectual esteem could properly be labeled "brainwashing".
He's making a fortune trashing the country and the economic system that allows him to make that fortune, while emboldening the nation's TRUE enemies, and laughing at you rubes all the way to his Park Ave digs.
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