[SunkenCiv]

Self-determination is a conservative value.

George W. Bush will be reelected by a margin of at least ten per cent

[Mortimer Snavely]

Self-determination is a Marxist-Leninist buzzword which has been used by every third-world totalitarian revolutionary movement since Lenin.

By using it, you reveal yourself as one bereft of any real historical awareness, as you do by using conservative and Leftist connotation words interchangeably. If you think that justice will be served by the creation of yet another Communist hell-hole which requires the destruction of our ally, then you have some serious ideological conflicts the resolution of which are far beyond the ability of members of this forum to resolve.