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1 posted on 06/21/2004 10:19:15 PM PDT by JohnHuang2
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Olanzapine? That's Zyprexa - used for treating schizophrenia and severe bipolarity. How many of those do they expect to find that our currently undiagnosed? Also, they won't likely be finding them in the grade schools...


38 posted on 06/21/2004 10:36:15 PM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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They're going to get our minds right.


43 posted on 06/21/2004 10:37:21 PM PDT by In_25_words_or_less (It's more a guideline than a rule.)
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Welcome to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services' (HHS) New Freedom Initiative Web site.
44 posted on 06/21/2004 10:37:43 PM PDT by primeval patriot
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what will bush do to those who dont pass the screening?


45 posted on 06/21/2004 10:37:49 PM PDT by isom35
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Have you lost your mind, George? This is nothing but shameless grandstanding for the drug industry.


55 posted on 06/21/2004 10:43:44 PM PDT by ETERNAL WARMING (He is faithful!)
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This is a joke, right? Is this a weak attempt at comedy? Did this come from The Onion? Surely, this is a joke, right? No government of the United States would ever propose something like this so it has to be a joke.


57 posted on 06/21/2004 10:44:01 PM PDT by DaGman
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President George W. Bush established the President’s New Freedom Commission on Mental Health in April 2002 as part of his commitment to eliminate inequality for Americans with disabilities. The President directed the Commission to identify policies that could be implemented by Federal, State and local governments to maximize the utility of existing resources, improve coordination of treatments and services, and promote successful community integration for adults with a serious mental illness and children with a serious emotional disturbance.

From June 2002 to April 2003, the 22 Commissioners met monthly to analyze the public and private mental health systems, visit innovative model programs across the country and hear testimony from the systems’ many stakeholders, including dozens of consumers of mental health care, families, advocates, public and private providers and administrators and mental health researchers. The Commission received feedback, comments and suggestions from nearly 2,500 people from all 50 states via personal testimony, letters, emails and a comment section on this website. In addition to public comment, the Commission consulted with nationally recognized professionals with expertise in diverse areas of mental health policy. The Commission established 15 subcommittees to examine specific aspects of mental health services and offer recommendations for improvement. The Commissioner page contains the Commission’s Membership Roster and the Subcommittee page displays the separate subcommittees and their report summaries.

The Commission will submit the final report to the President in May 2003, and the White House will, in turn, release the report soon thereafter. Once released, you will be able to access the final report on the "Reports" page of this website. The Commission wishes to thank all those who participated in this critical and historic effort. The final report to the President offers a vision of hope and recovery for people with a serious mental illness and their families.

Final Report to the President Now Available

61 posted on 06/21/2004 10:46:14 PM PDT by kcvl
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This is a joke, right?

WND has lifted something from "The Onion"?

65 posted on 06/21/2004 10:47:39 PM PDT by Glenn (The two keys to character: 1) Learn how to keep a secret. 2) ...)
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W has pushed to educate every child, and to make sure they can all stay in class the psychiatrists (in this instance "crazy doctors") have conned him into believing that drugging kids works.

I can't believe that W bought this, it won't work, will cause immense damage and the Rats will tie this around his neck like a 1984 boat anchor.

Maybe they already put some of this stuff in his coffee.


69 posted on 06/21/2004 10:49:11 PM PDT by Navy Patriot
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The New Freedom Initiative, according to a progress report, seeks to integrate mentally ill patients fully into the community by providing "services in the community, rather than institutions

This sounds like part of John Kennedy’s New Frontier. It led to the homeless problem in California which was blamed on Reagan. Democrats and various do-gooders believed that new "miracle" drugs and "services in the community, rather than institutions" were the answer. The movie One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest (1975) helped spread the do-gooder message nationwide to follow California's example.

Democrat legislation forced the release of tens of thousands leaving just about 6,500 in the institutions. Reagan cut hospital funding subsequently.

The program fizzled. Little or no federal funds. The former patients failed to take the drugs.

Or.. maybe this is for all of us when President Bush tells his co-president, Fox, "I'm re-elected now, go ahead and send the rest of 'em up here. Gracias."

77 posted on 06/21/2004 10:59:54 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (Benedict Arnold was a hero for both sides in the same war, too!)
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Brave New World is right.

God help our children who will have to live with this crap...unless WE do something about it.

[And both parties are guilty of this kind of thing. Pay no attention the the propagandists who use these issues as a reason to suuport the other guys.}

83 posted on 06/21/2004 11:03:56 PM PDT by Indie (Ignorance of the truth is no excuse for stupidity.)
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In a cursory reading of the 2004 Progress Report I failed to see anything about screening the entire U.S. population.

But then it may be buried in all of that bureaucratese.

92 posted on 06/21/2004 11:09:39 PM PDT by primeval patriot
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WND POLL:

What do you think of President Bush's plan to screen all for mental illness?

Is this guy trying to lose election on purpose? 28.92% (59)


Just test Bush and Kerry and leave the rest of us alone 27.94% (57)


It's thoroughly unconstitutional 16.18% (33)


I think Bush has gone nuts 8.82% (18)


I'm opposed to the idea 8.33% (17)


Plan has some merit 3.43% (7)


Sounds like killing a gnat with a sledgehammer 2.45% (5)


Sounds like a good idea, but I'd like more details 1.96% (4)


Other 1.47% (3)


It's Bush's best initiative yet 0.49% (1)





TOTAL VOTES: 204


99 posted on 06/21/2004 11:14:22 PM PDT by ETERNAL WARMING (He is faithful!)
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This program sounds horrible re the intrusiveness in parental affairs. Children's psychiatry is too primitive to assign it full control over developmental health.

When I read the title I only hoped that it might be some way to help the mentally challenged homeless population, whom I believe are NOT helped by their "freedom." I think they might be able to live freer lives if medicated, and I was picturing community waystations just for them.

Our tax dollars are SUPPOSED to help those [Americans] who truly are through no fault of their own unable to help themselves, and I am all for funding some kind of system to get mentally ill homeless into civilization, even against their will. Medication for bipolar and schizophrenia will actually make them MORE free to live better lives.

109 posted on 06/21/2004 11:21:58 PM PDT by Yaelle
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I really hope this isn't true. If it is, I am sure someone here will find a way to spin it as a good thing.


111 posted on 06/21/2004 11:22:22 PM PDT by Bella_Bru (It's for the children = It takes a village)
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If the vast majority of dimocrats are found to be clinically insane will their voting privileges be revoked? After all, if we can limit the number of insane people voting for our national leaders...well...that should be a good thing.
112 posted on 06/21/2004 11:22:33 PM PDT by highlander_UW (Evil doesn't want to leave you alone. It wants to draw you in and force you into complicity. - Keyes)
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This is the liberal spin on the truth. It addresses all disabilities, not mental illness alone.

The largest expense is educating the special needs children. I am not sure how this affects school monies for different programs, but this is not a pill pushing agenda that it has been construed to be.

126 posted on 06/21/2004 11:29:58 PM PDT by Kate of Spice Island ('Effin the ineffible since '91." (Still wearing the kilt with VS white with hearts.))
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more info

It appears that he plans a commission to look at the delivery of mental health care. Right now there are more problems than you can stick a shake at.

There were bounty hunters in Texas that kidnapped people out of corporate parking lots and tapped out the mental health insurance while destroying lives. These people are now on SSD and Medicare because of the corrupt MH system.

This should fix some of the corruption.

133 posted on 06/21/2004 11:35:52 PM PDT by Kate of Spice Island ('Effin the ineffible since '91." (Still wearing the kilt with VS white with hearts.))
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The TMAP -- started in 1995 as an alliance of individuals from the pharmaceutical industry, the University of Texas and the mental health and corrections systems of Texas -- also was praised by the American Psychiatric Association, which called for increased funding to implement the overall plan.

I'm at a loss, really. Everything that the American Psychiatric Association has stood for over the last few years, has proven that THIER MEMBERS should be in institutions. Anything that they praise should be immediately suspect, as they are largely a bunch of wannabe Euro-Socialists.

That said, this seems to be yet another thing that Bush has "delegated"...as is his propensity. As usual, it ended up being delegated to a bunch of people who really DO need medication. One would hope that he won't follow through?

151 posted on 06/21/2004 11:55:36 PM PDT by garandgal
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WTF?


161 posted on 06/22/2004 12:06:29 AM PDT by Musket
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