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To: Havoc
This is speaking not of the heretics but of those that bothered listen to them. And the pronouncements that follow are if you read, pronouncements not on the heretics; but, on those excommunicated for listening to the heretics.

Hello? Those who give credence to the teachings of theheretics are those who believe in heresy. "Credence" means belief, at least in most major dictionaries. You results may vary.

SD

90 posted on 06/18/2004 2:03:47 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: SoothingDave
Hello? Those who give credence to the teachings of theheretics are those who believe in heresy. "Credence" means belief, at least in most major dictionaries. You results may vary.

you're handwringing again. You said one thing and got burnt on it because it was wrong, now you are changing your story. Why don't you tell everyone what I didn't say.. that they were given a year to recant and if they failed to do so within a year, they would be judged a heretic. Just like the nobles failing to prosecute heresy with the death penalty - anyone who didn't was excommunicated, given a year to recant, then deemed a heretic themselves if they didn't - ie the death penalty.

Give us some more minimalist maneur Dave. God has already judged those men guilty of murdering innocents under the auspices of being "heretics". It isn't about that at this point - not for me. And I've made that clear. The problem I have with you is that it was A) wrong in the first place and you won't fix it B) Done and now you want to lie about it. Many of you say not just that it wasn't that bad; but these threads just today say it was the right thing to do. Now, that tells us you haven't learned either from scripture or from history and that the Pope had no reason to apologize. If he had no reason to apologize and ya'll have to lie about complicity, then all this is - is a pr stunt trying to BS people into the Roman Church. And it's pretty lame and dispicable.

97 posted on 06/18/2004 2:38:24 PM PDT by Havoc ("The line must be drawn here. This far and no further!")
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