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9/11 Commission refutes Bush?
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Posted on 06/18/2004 8:38:20 AM PDT by Mississippi Individual
As many of you have probably heard in the last few days, many news sources (Washington Post, NY Times, CNN) have stated that the 9/11 Commission has contradicted Bush and his administration directly, saying there is NO link between Iraq and Al Qaeda thus dismissing our primary cause for going to war.
The 9/11 Commission's report can be read in its entirety online, so I simply went to the report and typed 'iraq' in the search box. Needless to say, numerous results popped up, and I have sampled just a few of the clearest ones to contrast what the media has said lately (obviously more research than these nationally syndicated writers did).
Also, if you look for any of these headlines on their respective websites (nytimes.com etc.), you WILL NOT find them. The stories were posted, advertised, and then pulled down. This is 100% dishonesty and shows that, in an election year, the media has gone right back to furthering its original agenda, completely ignoring the truth.
Sampled headlines from the last few days:
THE OVERVIEW
Panel Finds No Qaeda-Iraq Tie; Describes a Wider Plot for 9/11
By PHILIP SHENON and CHRISTOPHER MARQUIS
No Evidence Connecting Iraq to Al Qaeda, 9/11 Panel Says
By Dan Eggen
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, June 16, 2004; 1:32 PM
There is "no credible evidence" that Saddam Hussein's government in Iraq collaborated with the al Qaeda terrorist network on any attacks on the United States, according to a new staff report released this morning by the commission investigating the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A46254-2004Jun16.html
The Iraq Connection
Al Qaeda-Hussein Link Is Dismissed
By Walter Pincus and Dana Milbank
Washington Post Staff Writers
Thursday, June 17, 2004; Page A01
The Sept. 11 commission reported yesterday that it has found no "collaborative relationship" between Iraq and al Qaeda, challenging one of the Bush administration's main justifications for the war in Iraq.http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A47812-2004Jun16.html
Actual findings directly from the 9/11 Commission's report:
Third public hearing of the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States
Statement of Judith S. Yaphe to the
National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States
Saddam and Bin Ladin worked together and Iraqi intelligence "ran" the al-Qaida networks. Evidence includes meetings between Iraqi intelligence agents and al-Qaida operatives in Sudan, the Czech Republic, and Afghanistan. In the 1980s and 1990s every international terrorist group and state sponsor was represented in Sudan. Iraq, Iran, and most Islamist organizations were welcomed by Hassan al-Turabi, the Islamist leader of the military-dominated regime. How could they not meet in Khartoum, a small city offering many opportunities for terrorist tête-à-têtes.
http://www.9-11commission.gov/hearings/hearing3/witness_yaphe.htm
Seventh public hearing of the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States
Statement of Peter F. Verga to the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon The United States
Area of Interest #2: Strategic role of the military in anti-terrorism, including protecting against infiltration of the United States by terrorist groups such as al-Qaeda
DoD defines anti-terrorism as defensive measures to reduce vulnerabilities and protect U.S. forces and assets worldwide. Anti-terrorism thus represents one element of a broader approach to combating terrorism that also includes counterterrorism, terrorism consequence management, and intelligence support.
The principal focus of DoDs efforts to combat terrorism is on bringing the fight to the terrorists abroad through the prosecution of the global war on terrorism. Thus, our first line of defense against terrorism is abroad -- to confront the enemy where he lives, trains, and recruits, as military forces are doing today in Afghanistan and Iraq.
TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 911commssion
To: Mississippi Individual
"no credible evidence"
Credibility is a subjective evaluation. This phrase tells it all-there WAS evidence, but the politically packed commission subjectively chose to reject it.
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posted on
06/18/2004 8:47:51 AM PDT
by
Spok
To: Spok
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posted on
06/18/2004 8:50:17 AM PDT
by
jimbo123
To: Mississippi Individual
Don't worry--the 9-11 commission will go directly to the media to correct this blatant distortion, just as they did to defend Gore-lick as well as their other numerous press tours. It'll happen any moment now........just wait......I can feel it coming.....Katie Couric can't wait to set the record straight......stay tuned folks, it'll happen any time now.......so, how 'bout them Dodgers?......
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posted on
06/18/2004 8:51:59 AM PDT
by
randog
(Everything works great 'til the current flows.)
To: Mississippi Individual
In the media coverage, I have noticed a subtle (I suspect
intended) mix of two distinct points.
1. There is (or isn't) a connection between Iraq and Al Qaeda and
2. There is (or isn't) a connection between Iraq and Al Qaeda's 9-11 plot.
This is a very important distinction to keep in mind because the President did not make a claim of Iraq's involvement in the 9-11 plot (#2 above), but did (and still does) claim that there is a connection between Iraq and Al Qaeda.
What does the 9-11 commission say? They agree with what the President has claimed: Iraq and Al Qaeda are linked, but there is no evidence of Iraq's involvement in the 9-11 plot.
Further, what the President has said all along (the "Bush Doctrine") is that we are at war with terrorists. Iraq is one front in that global conflict.
Thanks,
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posted on
06/18/2004 8:52:54 AM PDT
by
kinsman redeemer
(the real enemy seeks to devour what is good)
To: Mississippi Individual
John Lehman said this morning on FNC that the NYT was wrong. He's a commission member.
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posted on
06/18/2004 8:54:07 AM PDT
by
mewzilla
To: kinsman redeemer
The DemoncRATs only recognize a war against AlQaeda as if their membership cards & arm bands distinguish them from all the other terrorists who made their way through Salman Pak and other terrorist camps in Iraq and elsewhere.
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posted on
06/18/2004 8:55:43 AM PDT
by
Steven W.
To: Mississippi Individual
I think we should apply the Patriot Act to a number of people on that commission. Root out the traitors.
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posted on
06/18/2004 9:02:40 AM PDT
by
GOP_1900AD
(Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Right makes right!)
To: kinsman redeemer
Nicely stated.
The statement "There is "no credible evidence" that Saddam Hussein's government in Iraq collaborated with the al Qaeda terrorist network on any attacks on the United States" could mean 9/11 or more broadly the Cole or embassy bombings.
If Saddam and al Qaeda were working on a nuke together the above statement would be true. Would the news media report that as collaboration or not?
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posted on
06/18/2004 9:04:00 AM PDT
by
ironman
To: Mississippi Individual
No disrespect meant, however I find it amusing, that after all these years of
blatant media subterfuge, there are so many (particularly here on FR) that are unaware that we conservatives are at
war with those that would destroy this nation, as we know it.
That is to include the media, universities, the Democrat Party, RHINO's, various and sundry radical organizations, and the outright Communist, and Socialists, both in and out of our governments.
When does the reality set in? When a bell rings?
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posted on
06/18/2004 9:16:12 AM PDT
by
G.Mason
(A President is best judged by the enemies he makes when he has really hit his stride…Max Lerner)
To: GOP_1900AD
"I think we should apply the Patriot Act to a number of people on that commission. Root out the traitors."
If I wanted to live under a Soviet-style government, I'd move to China. Thankfully, our President has far more sense then to toss those who disagree with him into prison. The way to go about taking care of the commission's inaccurate statements is to show them to be as such with evidence - not to imprison them.
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posted on
06/18/2004 9:40:40 AM PDT
by
NJ_gent
To: kinsman redeemer
"What does the 9-11 commission say? They agree with what the President has claimed: Iraq and Al Qaeda are linked, but there is no evidence of Iraq's involvement in the 9-11 plot."
For once, the President actually rebutted this whole thing and explained his position quite well.
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posted on
06/18/2004 9:43:59 AM PDT
by
paulsy
To: Steven W.
The DemoncRATs only recognize a war against AlQaeda as if their membership cards & arm bands distinguish them from all the other terrorists who made their way through Salman Pak and other terrorist camps in Iraq and elsewhere. No, don't look for them EVER to admit we're right about any of this. You may be forgetting that truth doesn't matter to Democrats right now. They want to win an election, and though they likely know the real truth, they will trumpet lies to their sheeple to get their candidate elected. They know better though.
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posted on
06/18/2004 9:46:10 AM PDT
by
paulsy
To: paulsy
"Actual findings directly from the 9/11 Commission's report"
Where can we find a compilation of these direct rebuttals of the alphabet networks? Has anyone compiled these? I really don't have time right now but I sure would like to circulate some emails with a lot of little factoids.
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posted on
06/18/2004 9:48:53 AM PDT
by
paulsy
To: Mississippi Individual
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posted on
06/18/2004 9:51:10 AM PDT
by
take
To: NJ_gent
It's interesting that *you* accused *me* of a "Soviet" tactic. All I suggested was that, within the current statutes and structures, a full investigation should be made of Norquist and paths from him, whereever they may lead. I actually did not even mention which areas of government in my post. For all I know, they might lead anywhere. What is your dog in this hunt? I appear to have struck a nerve. In the spirit of full disclosure and intellectual honesty, do you personally have something to share with us? Are you involved in some way with Norquist's orgs?
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posted on
06/18/2004 10:02:04 AM PDT
by
GOP_1900AD
(Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Right makes right!)
To: GOP_1900AD
"It's interesting that *you* accused *me* of a "Soviet" tactic."
I didn't accuse you of anything; I simply said that "using the Patriot act", much of which is blatantly unconstitutional, against members of a commission simply because the findings of that commission aren't what some folks would like to see is a tactict favored by Soviet-style governments to ensure that all commission 'findings' are favorable to the party. I don't want to live in a place that yields compliance via fear.
"All I suggested was that, within the current statutes and structures, a full investigation should be made of Norquist and paths from him, whereever they may lead."
No, you said that we should apply the Patriot act to a "number of people" in order to "root out the traitors". What you proposed wasn't an investigation; it was a witch hunt. If you're convinced you'll find traitors, then traitors you will find.
"What is your dog in this hunt?"
The safeguarding of the country I love from anyone who would seek to fundamentally change it so that when I one day have children of my own, they can grow up like I did - without fear, without distrust, and without feeling the overwhelming urge to comply.
"Are you involved in some way with Norquist's orgs?"
You've dropped your tinfoil hat, and the aliens are once again reading your mind.
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posted on
06/18/2004 11:01:59 AM PDT
by
NJ_gent
To: NJ_gent
Answer the question, are you involved with Norquist's orgs?
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posted on
06/21/2004 7:54:55 PM PDT
by
GOP_1900AD
(Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Right makes right!)
To: GOP_1900AD
"Answer the question, are you involved with Norquist's orgs?"
It's actually pretty amusing that you'd really be this paranoid. No, I have nothing to do with Norquist, his orgs, his take-out food, hair dresser, dry cleaner, his tailor, his butler, or the aliens who continue to read your mind. I stand on my own two feet - I don't need a 'name' backing me up.
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posted on
06/22/2004 7:24:09 AM PDT
by
NJ_gent
To: NJ_gent
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posted on
06/22/2004 11:51:47 AM PDT
by
GOP_1900AD
(Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Right makes right!)
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