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To: ninenot; Peach
I will not reconsider.

Bruskewitz is at the far right-end of pastoral practice in the Church, and it should be noted and pointed out.

His ridiculous excommunications of members of 10 or 12 different organizations was outside of Canon Law. Note that no other bishop, not a single one, including noted canonists like Raymond Burke, emulated that extreme action. He is not authorized to excommunicate, on his own.

Bruskewitz's pastoral recommendations are not the norm, and a second opinon is in order.

310 posted on 06/17/2004 7:49:03 PM PDT by sinkspur (There's no problem on the inside of a kid that the outside of a dog can't cure.)
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To: sinkspur

You claim, seriously, that a Bishop may not excommunicate "on his own?"

You better look hard at Book 6 of the Canon Law. You may look particularly hard and long at Canon 1364. Not surprisingly, Bruskewitz first issued a public warning with a reasonable deadline. Since 1364 is 'latae sententiae' penalty, his warning may or may not have been necessary, but he certainly was polite in issuing same.

A Bishop has sole responsibility for his Diocese and reports, not to USCC, not to Sinkspur, not to Ninenot--but to JPII. Nobody else, period.

Vatican II did not change that, could not, and would not. Again, you are way out on a limb.

Further, you have yet to cite ANY authority for the YOPIOMarriage Law remarks you've made regarding Lincoln's summary quoted by Peach.

Seems to me that if you wish to contradict a Bishop, you should have a citation handy.


368 posted on 06/18/2004 5:18:02 AM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: sinkspur
His ridiculous excommunications of members of 10 or 12 different organizations was outside of Canon Law ... He is not authorized to excommunicate, on his own.

Yes he is.

Can. 1315 §1 Whoever has legislative power can also make penal laws. A legislator can, however, by laws of his own, reinforce with a fitting penalty a divine law or an ecclesiastical law of a higher authority, observing the limits of his competence in respect of territory or persons.

§2 A law can either itself determine the penalty or leave its determination to the prudent decision of a judge.

§3 A particular law can also add other penalties to those laid down for a certain offence in a universal law; this is not to be done, however, except for the gravest necessity. If a universal law threatens an undetermined penalty or a discretionary penalty, a particular law can establish in its place a determined or an obligatory penalty.


397 posted on 06/19/2004 6:35:24 PM PDT by gbcdoj (No one doubts ... that the holy and most blessed Peter ... lives in his successors, and judges.)
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