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Female Ky. School Workers See Strip Show
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Posted on 06/17/2004 7:21:12 AM PDT by esryle

COVINGTON, Ky. (AP) -- When Covington schools Superintendent Jack Moreland saw an advertisement for a Chippendales show, he thought it would be a good morale booster for his female employees. So he shelled out $420 to send 20 female staff members to a Chippendales show to see buff men strip off most of their clothing.

It worked, but it also raised the ire of at least one person, who wrote an anonymous letter to the state Office of Education Accountability accusing Moreland of using school-district funds to pay for the strip show.

Moreland said he spent $420 of his own money for the show - and faxed his personal credit-card receipt to investigators.

"I did it in fun, and they went in fun, and I don't think there was any harm done," he said.

Bryan Jones, a lawyer for the Office of Education Accountability, said he couldn't confirm or deny whether his office looked into a complaint.

The women who attended the show said they enjoyed it.

"We just laughed and laughed and laughed," said Jena Meehan, the superintendent's secretary. "It was a spectacle, to be sure, and to have all of us there was even funnier."

Chippendales is a high-class male revue that became popular in the 1980s. Well-muscled young men wearing bow-ties and bare chests strip to scanty undies for female audiences.

Moreland is the former president of the Council for Better Education, the superintendents group that brought the historic lawsuit that resulted in the Kentucky Education Reform Act of 1990 and its revolutionary reform of Kentucky's public schools.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Kentucky
KEYWORDS: governmenteducation; homeschoolnow; kentucky; moralrelativism; romans1; sexed; sexeducation; whateverfeelsgood
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To: DannyTN
The only thing I know that they have taught so far that I object to, is that they taught my daughter in Kindergarden that Ramadan was good because they gave to the poor. I agreed giving to the poor was good, but then provided balance by explaining what the Muslims do to the Jews.

Did you teach her that not all Muslims do that and that in fact a great number of them are simply minding their own lives, or did you just lump 'em all together as bad? And while you were at it, did you go over in detail what Christians have done to Jews over the course of history, even though of course most of them are wonderful people? I hope you did - you don't want her to have an imbalanced education!

You think Kindergarten should be a time of innocence and you're teaching your child about the atrocities people visit upon each other? Do you think at that age she can differentiate that some are good and some are bad? Or do you just want her to think that they are all basically bad?

361 posted on 06/17/2004 5:28:33 PM PDT by livianne
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To: DannyTN
That they do them to any Jews is problematic. But no all Muslims don't do those things. But that religion certainly generates enough that do them. And that religion has been generally slow and subdued and even silent in condemning such acts.

Luckily Christianity never inspired any atrocities like the Crusades against the Jews or anything...oh...wait...yes it did. Do you tell your kids all about the Crusades? Just for balance, mind you.

362 posted on 06/17/2004 5:33:05 PM PDT by livianne
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To: DannyTN
Same thing with teachers. The community gets to say who teaches.

When did you become part of that community?

363 posted on 06/17/2004 5:34:21 PM PDT by livianne
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To: DannyTN
How many kids get pregnant each year? How many abortions? Do you really think that teachers don't have any influence whatsoever? Do you really think those kids woke up one morning and said, "I think I'll have irresponsible sex today". They reached that point because of the influences around them, of which teachers are one.

You know, my senior year in HS there were two pregnant freshman. And as far as I know, none of my teachers went to strip clubs. They might have, but we never knew anything about it. And yet those girls were pregnant anyway. By the same boy, actually. Could be, it wasn't because of the teachers. They did have parents, though, who probably could have been paying a LITTLE more attention.

364 posted on 06/17/2004 5:35:52 PM PDT by livianne
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To: livianne

See!! The teachers didn't go to strip clubs and all but two students didn't get pregnant!!!

Had the teachers all gone to strip clubs and the students been aware, you might have had prego's popping left and right. LOL

There is no way of proving that. Even a controlled study, were someone callous enough to attempt it, would have so many variables as to be inconclusive.

Of course, you can't prove that teachers going to strip clubs doesn't have a bad influence on students either.


365 posted on 06/17/2004 5:46:43 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: livianne
"When did you become part of that community?"

Oh, I'm part of the larger American community and part of the FREEPER community. I don't to get to decide for that community, only my own.

But I can advise the heck out of them!!!

366 posted on 06/17/2004 5:48:44 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: cajun-jack

"even in kaintuck you don't need to take your shoes off to count that high"....Shoes? please explain?


367 posted on 06/17/2004 5:48:44 PM PDT by nkycincinnatikid
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To: DannyTN
:) You DO have a sense of humor!!

Of course, you can't prove that teachers going to strip clubs doesn't have a bad influence on students either.

Course not - I just wouldn't punish them for something you can't prove, where you would because it MIGHT mean they are a bad influence.

368 posted on 06/17/2004 5:55:08 PM PDT by livianne
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To: livianne
"Luckily Christianity never inspired any atrocities like the Crusades against the Jews or anything...oh...wait...yes it did. Do you tell your kids all about the Crusades? Just for balance, mind you."

I will when the time comes. Of course, Islam inspired the Crusades more than Christianity did by attacking first. But then there were some atrocities committed against the Jews as part of that, that were just wrong.

I'll will teach them that. I'll teach them about the Roman Catholic dark days when the leadership persecuted true Christians for reading the Bible. And other such things done in the name of Christianity. It's important for them to know that they must search God's word and pray and not just assume that because some Church leader is telling them something that it is true or right.

Acts 17:11 - Now these Jews were more noble than those in Thessaloni'ca, for they received the word with all eagerness, examining the scriptures daily to see if these things were so.

369 posted on 06/17/2004 5:55:34 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN
But I can advise the heck out of them!!!

go advise then - let us know what they say. :)

370 posted on 06/17/2004 5:55:57 PM PDT by livianne
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To: DannyTN
I will when the time comes. Of course, Islam inspired the Crusades more than Christianity did by attacking first. But then there were some atrocities committed against the Jews as part of that, that were just wrong.

But if you teach them good things about Christians now, you should balance it with bad things. At least as much as you balance them learning that on Ramadan Muslims give to charity by telling them what some Muslims do to Jews. I'm just using your standard. Personally, I think it's too young for them to learn any of that stuff - it's hard enough to understand at 26, I can't even imagine learning it at 6, and younger.

371 posted on 06/17/2004 5:58:51 PM PDT by livianne
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To: livianne
"Course not - I just wouldn't punish them for something you can't prove, where you would because it MIGHT mean they are a bad influence."

Well understand in this case, I'm not really calling for the teachers dismissal. It's the superintendant that I think should be fired. That alone would be sufficient reprimand to the teachers and tell the community and the kids that striptease acts are not appropriate incentives for school teachers.

372 posted on 06/17/2004 5:59:40 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: nkycincinnatikid

can't....if you can't spell "shoes" u shore can't lookem up in the dickshunery now can u??


373 posted on 06/17/2004 6:03:34 PM PDT by cajun-jack
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To: livianne
"But if you teach them good things about Christians now, you should balance it with bad things. "

Christianity by it's very nature has some balance to it. The whole point is that we aren't perfect and so God had to redeem us.

And she accepted the Lord at age 3, of her own free will. She asked how. Of course her IQ is 149 and she was reading at a 5th grade level by the end of Kindergarden.

My son is 5 and hasn't accepted the Lord yet. I'm constantly having to explain the flaws in evolution to him because he is really into dinosaurs.

I wouldn't have told her about what the Muslims do to Jews, had the dang public school not taught her that Ramadan was good. But it's not too young for them to learn about Christianity.

374 posted on 06/17/2004 6:06:18 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: esryle
I wonder what the teacher's students think of them attending such a performance?

Just more of the Clinton moral relevance crowd doing their form of show-and-tell for the students.

375 posted on 06/17/2004 6:06:39 PM PDT by fightu4it (conquest by immigration and subversion spells the end of US.)
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To: Bigg Red

So, your definition of a "life" is a one-size fits all one? Some people enjoy this sort of thing. It doesn't hurt anyone, so we really shouldn't care whether they did this or not.


376 posted on 06/17/2004 6:10:36 PM PDT by Junior (FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC)
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To: livianne

There is a big difference between having sex with one's wife and viewing pornography. My opinion.


377 posted on 06/17/2004 6:15:24 PM PDT by valleygal
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To: livianne

There is a big difference between having sex with one's wife and viewing pornography. My opinion.


378 posted on 06/17/2004 6:15:26 PM PDT by valleygal
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To: livianne; DannyTN
and i don't think it was a blunder at all. just because you say it is, doesn't make it so.

And just because you say it isn't doesn't make it so.

379 posted on 06/17/2004 6:22:35 PM PDT by valleygal
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To: cajun-jack

BTW cajun-jack, the single and undeniably impressive high school for the Covington school district is the Holmes campus. Named after D H Holmes, New Orleans' great retailer. He had a huge summer estate here, which he gave to the school district. The Auditorium looks like a Schubert theatre.


380 posted on 06/17/2004 6:34:20 PM PDT by nkycincinnatikid
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