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Female Ky. School Workers See Strip Show
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Posted on 06/17/2004 7:21:12 AM PDT by esryle

COVINGTON, Ky. (AP) -- When Covington schools Superintendent Jack Moreland saw an advertisement for a Chippendales show, he thought it would be a good morale booster for his female employees. So he shelled out $420 to send 20 female staff members to a Chippendales show to see buff men strip off most of their clothing.

It worked, but it also raised the ire of at least one person, who wrote an anonymous letter to the state Office of Education Accountability accusing Moreland of using school-district funds to pay for the strip show.

Moreland said he spent $420 of his own money for the show - and faxed his personal credit-card receipt to investigators.

"I did it in fun, and they went in fun, and I don't think there was any harm done," he said.

Bryan Jones, a lawyer for the Office of Education Accountability, said he couldn't confirm or deny whether his office looked into a complaint.

The women who attended the show said they enjoyed it.

"We just laughed and laughed and laughed," said Jena Meehan, the superintendent's secretary. "It was a spectacle, to be sure, and to have all of us there was even funnier."

Chippendales is a high-class male revue that became popular in the 1980s. Well-muscled young men wearing bow-ties and bare chests strip to scanty undies for female audiences.

Moreland is the former president of the Council for Better Education, the superintendents group that brought the historic lawsuit that resulted in the Kentucky Education Reform Act of 1990 and its revolutionary reform of Kentucky's public schools.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Kentucky
KEYWORDS: governmenteducation; homeschoolnow; kentucky; moralrelativism; romans1; sexed; sexeducation; whateverfeelsgood
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To: valleygal
Do you mean whatever someone choses to do on their nights off that is LEGAL is nobody's business?

Yes.

121 posted on 06/17/2004 11:20:26 AM PDT by Modernman ("I don't care to belong to a club that accepts people like me as members" -Groucho Marx)
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To: esryle

Why was morale low in the first place?


122 posted on 06/17/2004 11:23:03 AM PDT by razorback-bert
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To: Xenalyte
What in any of my posts would lead you to think I've ever been inside a strip joint?

Come on, X, admit it: drunken housewives, steroided guys with orange tans in man-thongs shaking to "Rock You Like A Hurricane," over-priced beer, dingy surroundings.

You're telling me that's not your favorite way to spend a Tuesday night? Geez, what a stiff :-)

124 posted on 06/17/2004 11:25:07 AM PDT by Modernman ("I don't care to belong to a club that accepts people like me as members" -Groucho Marx)
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To: Modernman; twigs
These people need to get in a new line of work. They shouldn't be teaching children.

Why not?

Let's put it this way, I wouldn't go back to my OB-GYN if I found out he sat at his home computer, even if only once in awhile, looking at pornography.

125 posted on 06/17/2004 11:25:35 AM PDT by valleygal
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To: Modernman; twigs
These people need to get in a new line of work. They shouldn't be teaching children.

Why not?

Let's put it this way, I wouldn't go back to my OB-GYN if I found out he sat at his home computer, even if only once in awhile, looking at pornography.

126 posted on 06/17/2004 11:25:46 AM PDT by valleygal
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To: valleygal
Let's put it this way, I wouldn't go back to my OB-GYN if I found out he sat at his home computer, even if only once in awhile, looking at pornography.

Considering the American public's love of pornography, there is a pretty good chance that your OB-GYN does look at porn, at least once in a while.

127 posted on 06/17/2004 11:27:53 AM PDT by Modernman ("I don't care to belong to a club that accepts people like me as members" -Groucho Marx)
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To: JimVT

"He should have bought them lunch in a fancy restaraunt."

"$420/20=$21.00 "

Or a movie with large popcorn and drink. I think you get free refills. :-)


128 posted on 06/17/2004 11:28:33 AM PDT by Rebelbase ( aka Gassybrowneyedbum)
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To: Modernman

Sadly, you can't. We are slouching toward Gommorah. But I just find it intesting that those who say, "Don't impose your morals on me" have just imposed their morals, their view of right and wrong back on the rest of us.


129 posted on 06/17/2004 11:31:46 AM PDT by valleygal
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To: 2banana
Maybe the superintendent thought it was a furniture show...

Impossible, you can easily tell the difference between a chippendale dancer and chippendale table but what is in the drawers.

130 posted on 06/17/2004 11:32:39 AM PDT by cynicalman
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To: Modernman

I thought that's what you meant. :) BTW, I looked at your homepage. You watch too much Simpsons, LOL! So does my son.


131 posted on 06/17/2004 11:33:42 AM PDT by valleygal
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To: Modernman; twigs

I'm sorry. I swear I didn't hit post 3 times!


132 posted on 06/17/2004 11:35:14 AM PDT by valleygal
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To: mhking

One of the top ten sentences you don't want to hear yourself saying - "It seemed like a good idea at the time"


133 posted on 06/17/2004 11:39:46 AM PDT by BSunday (RWR - America is a better place because of you.)
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To: valleygal
You watch too much Simpsons, LOL! So does my son.

No such thing as too much Simpsons. All of life's answers can be found there.

134 posted on 06/17/2004 11:44:31 AM PDT by Modernman ("I don't care to belong to a club that accepts people like me as members" -Groucho Marx)
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To: valleygal
But I just find it intesting that those who say, "Don't impose your morals on me" have just imposed their morals, their view of right and wrong back on the rest of us.

Excellent point.

135 posted on 06/17/2004 11:44:39 AM PDT by BSunday (RWR - America is a better place because of you.)
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To: Modernman; valleygal

My guess is the Superintendent didn't invite them after hours. I bet he invited them while he was on the job acting as Superintendent.

Regardless, he has a supervisory role over these teachers and any interaction with them either in public or private is relavent to the job.


136 posted on 06/17/2004 11:45:40 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Colofornian
Of course they didn't go strip for money, but according to your logic, what would be wrong if they did (as long as they meet your bottom line of "improving the morale of others")?

For one thing, (and here comes that nasty double standard!) men in strip clubs looking at women are far more lascivious than women in strip clubs looking at men. It's just a different environment. It's much more social. Were they stripping, they would be in an entirely different situation than being at a male strip club. Besides, I said it was good because it improved THEIR morale, not the morale of others.

Or, according to your thinking, men in speedos and bow ties dancing around is just plain funny...then I suppose you see nothing wrong with male educators who go out & earn some extra income "improving the morale" of female voyeurs. After all, they wouldn't be doing anything sexy. It would just be a "funny" act. And what could possibly be wrong with educators who moon-light as comedians?

The real question is, why do you think you do get to say what people do on their own time? Unless you think their students will be at these clubs, I really don't see what difference it makes. Personally, I don't plan to send my kids to public school primarily because I have _NO_ control over what kind of person the teacher is or what they pass along to my children. It's the bitch of a free society - I won't tell someone else what they can and cannot do when they are not working so long is it doesn't directly affect their job, but I do have the right to decide whether I want to be involved in that system at all.

The presumption that we know the entire moral code of a person by one part of their life is simply ridiculous - I would bet there are plenty of people on this board who are quite conservative parents, teachers or both who have activities they wouldn't ever let on to their children. And so long as it's kept away from the children, it's their perogitive.

Protecting the innocence of children and taking away all the freedom of adults do NOT go hand in hand.

137 posted on 06/17/2004 11:56:24 AM PDT by livianne
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To: af_vet_1981
She teaches at high school level and has five 16 year old girls in one class who are pregnant- one of them with her second child. I doubt that any of them would be traumatized to learn that their teacher went to a male strip club No, she will simply validate their value system as the nation continues slouching toward Sodom and Gomorrah.

Only if she goes into class and gives a full report of it - some people can keep their personal activities separate from their professional ones.

138 posted on 06/17/2004 11:57:59 AM PDT by livianne
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To: af_vet_1981
It will never make them better teachers in the positive sense. The old corrupt the young and the nation continues onward to Sodom and Gomorrah.

Of all the things bringing the morality of our youth downward, this is the LEAST threatening thing I have seen in a long time. In fact, it just looks like light-hearted fun. No one brought the kids, showed pics to the kids, told stories to the kids - it was a bunch of ADULTS having their own fun. The point of teaching children morality, IMHO, is so that as adults they can tell the difference between a fun night out and utter depravity, so that they can make decisions that don't harm them as adults. These women are already adults, and didn't do anything harmful. No one is burning in hell for giggling at overly pumped guys in speedos.

139 posted on 06/17/2004 12:01:57 PM PDT by livianne
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To: TheBattman
the use of school funds absolutely throws this off the deep end. The Jack The Jerk should loose his job

FYI, as you seem to have difficulty in your reading comprehension

Moreland said he spent $420 of his own money for the show - and faxed his personal credit-card receipt to investigators.

And it's "LOSE his job"

140 posted on 06/17/2004 12:02:57 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy ("Despise not the jester. Often he is the only one speaking the truth")
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