Your expertise seems to come from a strange pride in your own LACK of knowledge.
It might interest you to know, that C-130's and P-3's share the same engines and basic airframe parts. However, the ORION has NOT been replaced by newer ORIONS, as the 130 has. Our supply of flyable aircraft is dwindling. The ones that are left WILL kill a crew in the next few years...they are simply that old.
"Oh, Diesel subs? You mean air breathing subs. They are not true submarines, they are submersible boats, what threat are they?"
Obviously, you didn't read the post you replied to. Modern diesel submarines are every bit as quiet and capable as nukes, Sport. Especially the German ones...they lead the world in the technology and engineering. When they put out their Air-Independant Propulsion engines this year, they will be the equal of our best nukes.
However, I will not argue further with someone who posted the line above with a straight face. You have no idea how misinformed you are, or how ignorant.
" The only true submarines are nucs."
A diesel is just as capable of sinking a carrier as a nuke is, Sport. In fact, in excercises, they HAVE proven their ability to do so.
Of course, you know better, from your couch, right?
How well do you think a 737 will handle down on the deck as opposed to a P3? Can they maneuver as good? Do props have any acceleration advantage over engines? I mean in the engines themselves not the airframe.
Actually SPORT, I have been shot at and HIT, not from my couch, but on a street in Chu Lai, RVN, Oct. 1, 1966. While I honor your service, I see we are narrowing your argument..You have a problem with the C-130? State it. German subs, almost as good as nucs. The qualifying word is "almost". And you don't think our government has a say, along with NATO, the end point of German sub sales(they don't move about like used cars), nor do we not monitor (your job) their movement..By the way, how many of these subs have been constructed and who bought them? You seem to know everything, answer me that(suggest Jane's), SPORT.
So, we won the Cold War. There is no submarine threat out there equivalent to the USSR at its height, true. That doesn't mean that the Chinese, Iranians etc. aren't doing their best to replicate that threat. Unfortunately, past experience shows that many times, the only thing that will make Americans focus on a threat is a disaster like Pearl Harbor or 9/11. Hopefully, we won't wait for a Chinese sub to park an anti-ship missile in one of our carriers before we start focusing on that threat.