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To: SunkenCiv

Thanks for the ping.

I don't understand what they mean by 'first town'. Where did the Irish live, besides monasteries, before the Vikings arrived?

Or don't the Celts count? The Vikings "invented" towns in Ireland?


10 posted on 11/16/2005 11:14:33 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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To: ApplegateRanch

http://www.knowth.com/newgrange.htm


some people here are listening to too many hollywood films i think!

this was built before the pyramids, 3200 BC...and to be honest is nothing short of stunning and thats from someone who doesnt visit these things...


11 posted on 11/16/2005 11:20:15 PM PST by Irishguy (How do ya LIKE THOSE APPLES!!!!)
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To: ApplegateRanch

The major cities of modern Ireland have Viking foundations. But there is also a Roman-era settlement in NE Ireland which predates the Vikings by 800 years. And there are megalithic sites whicy go back a more than thousand years before the Romans. And at, under, or near any medieval sites, there could easily be identifiable traces of an earlier settlement which was burned and appropriated by the Vikings.

OTOH, the Vikings did prefer to build on virgin sites, and tended to pick their sites based on the harbor or estuary that looked best to them.

Limerick's an historic city
Eleven hundred years old -- what a pity
That this Georgian delight of industrial might
Is best known for verses half-witty.

(a lousy but easy to remember limerick about Limerick, found on an old Nat Geog map of Ireland)


15 posted on 11/17/2005 6:48:13 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Down with Dhimmicrats! I last updated my FR profile on Wednesday, November 2, 2005.)
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