Posted on 06/11/2004 12:28:42 PM PDT by Willie Green
ERIE — A white couple and their adopted daughter were ordered off an airplane because police were concerned they had abducted the Chinese toddler.
Richard and Ruth Feiock, of Tallahassee, Fla., said the actions of police were bigoted and that they may file a civil lawsuit against Erie International Airport.
“It was a very racist thing to do, ordering us off of the plane,” said Richard Feiock, a political science professor at Florida State University. The family was in Erie on Tuesday night to see an older daughter graduate from Northwest Pennsylvania Collegiate Academy.
Two people aboard the Delta flight became concerned when the Feiock´s 2-year-old daughter began crying incessantly as the airplane sat on the tarmac, police said.
Race was not a consideration when the couple were asked to get off the plane, said David Bagnoni, director of public safety and chief of police at Erie International.
“The baby was screaming, ‘Mommy, Mommy, Mommy,´ and fussing, trying to get out of the hands of the woman holding her,” he said....
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Not to mention same-sex "parents".
I suspect a homosexual "couple" starts out with a significant advantage in many if not most venues these days.
Moving right along, completely unrelated to anything I've seen mentioned (so far) in this thread is something I've personally observed that happens to some people who adopt American babies.
I'm not saying it's always the case -- or even often the case. What I am saying is that in virtually every case that I've seen, there has been a nightmare aspect to the situation regarding what I'll politely term "genetics."
Please note that I am not talking "race". I do not recognize "race". If the parents and the child are all humans, then they are of the same race.
That said, from my own observation, it seems that there is a significant nonzero number of adoption scenarios in which the biological "parents" are... defective. They are people who, as the aporism goes, should not breed -- and when they do breed, they pass along their own characteristics.
This will probably evoke some flames from people, but c'est la vie. I'm just saying what I've personally observed. Children born to parents who come from a multigenerational "bottom of the ladder" lifestyle carry a certain type of baggage that IMO is genetic, rather than something they picked up via "environment."
Anyone who's had the opportunity to observe "pockets of poverty" -- I'm talking about isolated, cloistered collections of people (I hesitate to use the word "communities"), where there is little if any "new blood" entering the gene pool for generation after generation -- will know what I'm talking about.
There are people who are born to misery, and it's in their bones. Even if you take them fresh out of the womb and they have absolutely no exposure to the hellholes their forebears have created for themselves, they grow into something that brings more grief to their adopted parents than anyone deserves to suffer.
IMO it's better to be childless, than to raise a baby that turns into a sociopathic beast, who literally destroys your lives.
And it's better yet to adopt a normal child from a foreign country, where the only disadvantage is economic, rather than genetic.
Given the choice between rescuing a normal foreign child from a short, squalid life spent toiling in the rice paddies (or worse, far worse), or, a "genetically troubled" (and possibly further damaged by lack of prenatal care, and/or fetal exposure to drugs and alcohol) American infant, well, it doesn't strike me as a very difficult decision.
Like I said, "race" is not the issue. I feel I have to emphasize this because the word "genetics" has politically incorrect baggage of its own these days. And to reiterate (in closing!), this is something I've personally observed time and again, pretty much to the exclusion of good outcomes.
I've relatives, friends, and acquaintances who have adopted and my mother was employed in placing children so I'm somewhat familiar, I just haven't adopted any myself. Nor does the idea of background checks frighted me.
No he's not.
It is a reasonable initial reaction to expect that a young child would be crying for its true, biological parent. It is also reasonable that there would be some delay necessary to ascertain and verify the less common set of circumstances, and assure that the child was in no danger. It may prove inconvenient for the adoptive parents at times, but that is a situation they should already understand. IMHO, it is evident that this political science professor has some other agenda to pursue by outlandishly alleging racism and bigotry.
The social workers want the kids to stay in the system. As long as they're in the system, they're generating money and work for social workers. Follow the money
Well, I'm sorry I got a little excited. There is a lot more to overseas adoption than most folks realize, and I can usually deal with off-hand comments in a good humour.
keilimon
Yes they could
My brother and sister inlaw adopted a Chinese baby when she was 6 months old and she learned english when she started to talk
I just hope you're a charcoal man.
I also wonder if people adopt asian babies in the racist belief that the babies of such races will do better in school than babies of other races.
And what is your theory as to why the adopt Hispanic and European babies?
I can think of two couples that I know who have adopted Asian kids. In the first case the wife was of Asian ancestry and the husband was White. The foreign officials were shocked that someone would want to adopt an "unadoptable" mixed Asian European child.
In the second case, the couple opted for a Korean child when political tensions made their first choice of country nonviable.
And I thought it was just the fact of being a teenager! But I know what you mean. Some of the children have suffered pain that bubbles to the surface in their teen years. There was a book that came out a few years ago by a woman who expected her adoption would result in a perfect child - such a creature doesn't exist anywhere, and the idea that an older child taken from her parents wouldn't have issues!...lets just say the author had no business adopting, or even owning a dog. They don't take children away from birth parents for fun...adoptive parents need to be prepared for some very difficult years, even by teenage standards.
Dante3 brought up a good point about CA adoptions I forgot - when we were looking at adopting, the social workers strongly suggested that guns in the home would be a serious 'problem' for a home study. The fact that I have 2 grown kids raised around guns, and a 6 year old currently raised in a home with guns didn't matter.
Bottom line - the social workers we met in CA seemed far more interested in PREVENTING adoptions than in getting kids out of foster care and into a stable environment.
BTW - When we tried to adopt in CA a couple of years ago, my wife & I were in our early 40s, 2 older kids + one young one. She's a nurse, I'm a military officer. We were living in a semi-rural, low crime part of CA...willing to adopt siblings, other race, disabled, preferred a child to an infant, etc - but CA wore us out. The kicker came when we were told we probably couldn't adopt in less than 3 years, which would mean the military would have transferred us & we would leave CA with months of efforts, poorer by thousands of dollars, and no child adopted. As it is, I'm now on a remote in Korea...wonder what the 'home study' would say about a father who leaves his family behind for a year. Probably say I'm unfit...don't know how the 3 we have are normal. Yes, I'm a little bit bitter. ;>(
I work with a couple who are going to adopt a Korean baby. They are waiting for the INS to approve the move now.
The reason they do not want to adopt an American baby is that American parents who give up their children to adoption have three years to change their minds. They don't want to take the chance of losing a beloved child to somebody having second thoughts.
That's so sad. I bet you'd make a good dad... lots of military brats turn out okay.
BTW, my father didn't live at home. He was a long distance trucker. What's the difference between a long distance trucker and a man in the military? Unbelieve.
I've been dealing personally with adoption laws for the last 6+ years. There have been some changes, such as granting citizenship on adoption, rather than through petition when back in the states. Not surprisingly, this "benefit" has increased the amount of paperwork.
Read the posts again - we were denied a U.S. adoption strictly because of our age. Yes, you know of one who is older and adopted - if you have the money for lawyers you can work the the system. Celebrities routinely adopt in a very short period of time regardless of age.
You are concerned about background checks? Guess what? State Child Abuse Registry, local police, state police, state bureau of investigation, FBI, INS, Department of State, all reports checked and verified by the Chinese Consulate, plus financial reports verified by an accounting firm and state sanctioned home studies by a social worker.
BTW, ignorance referred to your comment, not your person. You just don't have the facts, so voiced an opinion devoid of reason.
keilimon
The little brat hehehehe
The Chinese literally throw their little girls away. If she were just adopted, she wouldn't be saying "mommy" in English.
Congratulations to you. I have a beautiful niece from Russia as well :) International adoption has been wonderful for our entire family.
Don't you think that many 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th,... generation Asian-Americans teach their natural born children to speak English?
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