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LIVE THREAD: Reagan Funeral - California
www.freerepublic.com | June 7, 2004

Posted on 06/07/2004 9:43:02 AM PDT by Howlin

Reagan family has arrived in Santa Monica to escort President Reagan's body to his library.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: bestpresidentever; california; funeral; reagan; reaganfuneral; ronaldreagan; simivalley
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To: homemom

http://www.virginia.edu/insideuva/textonlyarchive/94-06-03/1.txt

Driven by a "passion for self-justification," President
Clinton similarly blundered in his handling of the Ruth Bader
Ginsburg and Judge Stephen Breyer nominations, according to Mr.
Hume. Alluding to the extended period of public deliberations
preceding Ms. Ginsburg's nomination a year ago, when White House
aides first identified Secretary of the Interior Bruce Babbitt as
the likely nominee, and then Stephen Breyer, Mr. Hume said it
caused needless embarrassment to the overlooked candidates and
the President. When Mr. Hume asked President Clinton about this
process at the press conference announcing Ms. Ginsburg's
nomination, he "blew his top," said Mr. Hume. "A public snit at a
mere reporter risks diminishing the dignity of his office and
making the President appear less than the commanding and
magnanimous figure that Americans think their president should
be. After the seeming disarray of the selection process, it would
seem that the last thing Mr. Clinton needed was to seem not in
control of himself."

One year later, a string of candidates being considered to
succeed Justice Harry Blackmun was being discussed in the same
public manner. Queried once again about this process, President
Clinton defended it by pointing to the U.S. Constitution, saying
it required him to seek the advice and consent of the Senate and
suggested there were bound to be leaks on Capitol Hill anyway,
Mr. Hume said. "Never mind that the Constitution has never been
interpreted to mean you have to seek the advice of individual
senators and it was the White House and not Capitol Hill that
fueled the spate of stories about the candidates," he said.

According to Mr. Hume, the events surrounding Ms. Ginsburg's
appointment should have taught President Clinton certain lessons:
"deliberations should be closely held; there should be no advance
publicity about decisions that have not been finally made; and
there is no use blaming things on the media."

The President seemed determined to establish that the fault
in these instances did not lie with him, said Mr. Hume. "Another
case of pride getting in the way of the adjustments that are
often needed to avoid making the same mistake twice.

"Most of the time we bear at least some of the blame when
things go wrong. Admitting your share of responsibility may
not seem easy, but when you do it, it's liberating. It makes
you feel not only better, but ironically bigger. It's one example
how a little humility will not only pull you through, but in a
seemingly paradoxical way bring you out ahead," concluded Mr.
Hume.


1,321 posted on 06/07/2004 2:38:29 PM PDT by theophilusscribe ("America is too great for small dreams." —Ronald Wilson Reagan)
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To: hershey

Thanks, I wasn't sure. Guess I should check with findagrave.com more often.


1,322 posted on 06/07/2004 2:39:30 PM PDT by the Deejay
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To: Lady Jag

My son is a lifeguard, teenager. Good starting I guess, I hope. :)


1,323 posted on 06/07/2004 2:39:44 PM PDT by My back yard (How do people without faith bear sadness like this???)
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To: socal_parrot

Oh, you're so lucky. Take your time. These people shuffling past do it the wrong way. Give him his due.


1,324 posted on 06/07/2004 2:39:50 PM PDT by faithincowboys
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To: Serb5150; All

How do we pay our respects to a Godly Man such as Ronald Reagan? this man made our world a safer place, defeated the soviet union, lowered our taxes, Had such a strong belief in God as we all do, and while I'm not trying to get political I think we must rise to the occasion and do all we can to educate the people regarding the dangers of a kerry administration ( real hard keeping eyes dry )I'm Proud to call all of you my fellow Freepers' my Godly Family


1,325 posted on 06/07/2004 2:41:03 PM PDT by Robert Warren Linville (So proud of Free Republic that I use my real name)
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To: homemom

http://ontology.buffalo.edu/smith//clinton/thinking.html

On June 14, 1993, after three months of changing his mind about a Supreme Court nominee, Clinton finally succumbed to the forces advocating Ruth Bader Ginsburg and presented her to guests and press in a televised ceremony in the Rose Garden. Clinton spoke. Judge Ginsburg spoke. Clinton then turned to the press. Brit Hume of ABC rose to his feet and asked a question: What had caused the protracted "zigzag quality" in the nomination process? Hume knew, the press knew, Clinton knew, and an untold number of citizens knew, that Hume was actually asking Clinton a personal question: Why are you so indecisive? Clinton displayed a cold, controlled anger, chastised the press for being more interested in "political process" than in "substance," and abruptly terminated the press conference, leaving Hume standing there, six feet tall and bright red.


1,326 posted on 06/07/2004 2:41:39 PM PDT by theophilusscribe ("America is too great for small dreams." —Ronald Wilson Reagan)
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To: homemom

I lost a friend. From experience, the first couple of months are very hard and then with the passage of time one adjusts to the fact someone who used to be in one's life is no longer there. You don't tell someone to get over it and this is where memorials to the dearly departed are very helpful. They give us inspiration and allow us to find the resolve to go on living. And the dead are not really dead; they are still with us and they watch over us every day until it is our time to join them. Its also been 30 years since my mom died and God I still love her and miss her very much. Attending a funeral is one of the most stressful events in life and what makes its bearable for the Reagan family is the love and support of so many people. You should never be left to mourn alone. And one should always remember that during a sad time like this, we are loved by God.


1,327 posted on 06/07/2004 2:42:06 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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I found these neat ranch photos of President & Mrs. Reagan.

http://www.reagan.utexas.edu/photos/ranch.htm


1,328 posted on 06/07/2004 2:43:08 PM PDT by lainie
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To: Robert WarrenLinville

One of The Greatest of us has tipped his hat, and rode on.


1,329 posted on 06/07/2004 2:43:11 PM PDT by My back yard (How do people without faith bear sadness like this???)
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To: spectre
I found the article thanks for the thread....LOLOLOLOL...that building is poetic justice. I'm still laughing.

Red

1,330 posted on 06/07/2004 2:43:47 PM PDT by Conservative4Ever (watch this space for future tag line...)
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To: hershey

Jane Wyman
Date of Birth:
Current Age: 01/04/1914
90


1,331 posted on 06/07/2004 2:44:36 PM PDT by tapatio ( For you see, my fellow Republicans, we are the change!)
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To: Howlin
Even in death, Ronald Reagan has lifted the spirits of America. Dow up 142; NASDAQ up 42; S&P up 18.

John Kerry is on deathwatch.

Children of America are asking their teachers, "Who was Ronald Reagan?"

The NEA is screaming in pain.

1,332 posted on 06/07/2004 2:44:49 PM PDT by snopercod (They often call me Snoper, but my realname, my realname, my realname is Mister Cod.)
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To: snopercod

Oh wow.......that is the best post of the day!!!

I love the screaming in pain part!


1,333 posted on 06/07/2004 2:45:31 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Inspectorette
do you know where the "Prescott" came from? Interesting in that it's also a Bush family name.

Can't help you with the Prescott history. Good catch noting the Reagan/Bush Prescott connection.

1,334 posted on 06/07/2004 2:45:33 PM PDT by NautiNurse (Missing Iraqi botulinum toxin? Look at John Kerry's face)
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To: faithincowboys
"Well I have a second and many millions more who saw it. "

FOFLOL. Well, 'Two wrongs don't make a right'. Moreover, you couldn't possibly know how the "millions more who saw it" reacted. I say again, you are absolutely wrong about Shep, but then, being wrong never seems to be a deterrant for you.

1,335 posted on 06/07/2004 2:45:38 PM PDT by Darlin' ("I will not forget this wound to my country." President George W Bush, 20 Sept 2001)
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To: Darlin'

End it--the AM came in and tried to regulate you people. End it!


1,336 posted on 06/07/2004 2:46:44 PM PDT by faithincowboys
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To: Howlin
I'm hoping the route is lined with people showing their sorrow!

Here in North Carolina, when a funeral procession goes by, drivers on the other side of the road pull off and stop out of respect.

It brought tears to my eyes to see the same respect in some Californians. Maybe there is some hope for that state after all.

1,337 posted on 06/07/2004 2:46:59 PM PDT by snopercod (They often call me Snoper, but my realname, my realname, my realname is Mister Cod.)
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To: HairOfTheDog
Sgt. York is a handsome horse, got some T'bred in him.

I think he is an off-the-track standardbred

They share a lot of the same bloodlines, way back. Hard to tell from the front, too.

But he is a good looking horse (I'm partial to black horses of course since mine is one.) They must keep him blanketed when he's turned out to keep that nice rich color.

1,338 posted on 06/07/2004 2:47:04 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of Venery (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: snopercod
Children of America are asking their teachers, "Who was Ronald Reagan?"

The NEA is screaming in pain.


ROFL!!!

1,339 posted on 06/07/2004 2:47:29 PM PDT by NautiNurse (Missing Iraqi botulinum toxin? Look at John Kerry's face)
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To: NautiNurse

LOL..........that was worth the wait, wasn't it?


1,340 posted on 06/07/2004 2:48:17 PM PDT by Howlin
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