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To: NetValue

No shocker there. The plane separated both engines and the tail during takeoff. The Feds stated it was due to turbulence from the flight that left 2:45 minutes ahead of it.

First of all the turbulence after 2:45 minutes would be negligable. Secondly, separating both engines and the tail would not be a primary failure mode for a plane subject to turbulence.


12 posted on 06/03/2004 4:31:58 AM PDT by HighWheeler ("Would I turn on the gas if my pal Mugsy were in there?" "Ye might rabbit, ye might." Bugs, 1954)
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To: HighWheeler

Tisk, tisk, tisk.
And I suppose you don't believe that TWA800 climbed thousands of feet, wings level with all four engines producing thrust, after the center fuel tank spontaneously exploded and the forward section of the fuselage separated (as shown in the CIA-produced video)...


18 posted on 06/03/2004 4:45:18 AM PDT by 76Tiger
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To: HighWheeler
No shocker there. The plane separated both engines and the tail during takeoff. The Feds stated it was due to turbulence from the flight that left 2:45 minutes ahead of it. First of all the turbulence after 2:45 minutes would be negligable. Secondly, separating both engines and the tail would not be a primary failure mode for a plane subject to turbulence.

No, the "Feds" did not say it was wake turbulence. What they said is that when the aircraft encountered wake turbulence, the First Officer at the controls, incorrectly implimented violent hard rudder movements - side to side rapidly. American Airlines had been teaching this to their pilots and has since stopped because the NTSB, FAA and safety experts told them it was ridiculous in large aircraft to do. As for 2.75 minutes - the time between a "heavy" and any aircraft following is considered 5 minutes. The wake of a heavy falls at 500 feet per minute. That means that 1,500 feet below the path on a calm day within 3 minutes of a heavy is a dangerous place to be - BUT it was not wake that did it - it was the REPONSE to the wake.

I am an airline pilot and an instructor. The FAA came by our training centers after the accident to make sure we weren't teaching such silly wake escape manuevers to our pilots (we weren't - we were taught that moving a 30 foot tall rudder with 3,000 psi should be done SLOWLY).
46 posted on 06/03/2004 5:17:01 AM PDT by safisoft
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To: HighWheeler
No shocker there. The plane separated both engines and the tail during takeoff. The Feds stated it was due to turbulence from the flight that left 2:45 minutes ahead of it.

Personally, I never believed it, not for a minute.

132 posted on 06/03/2004 3:47:16 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: HighWheeler

Exactly...I have always stated my theory was the plane blew up because of a shoe bomber. If Richard Reid was not stopped...and the plane he was on blew up...do you think for a second anyone would have come forth from our government and said it was terrorism?

Hell no...they would never have known because it would have blown up over an ocean.

Total cover up going on.


135 posted on 06/03/2004 3:54:05 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache (Rush 30th Anniversary Tour Tickets On Sale Now!)
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