[farmfriend]

He saw the Army go downhill, as drill sergeants had to be more "sensitive"; and affirmative action promotions, etc.

I do not support the lowering of standards just to accommodate women. Nothing I have posted here even suggests that.

Men's rights; women's rights. What about adhering to the laws of God and nature that ARE right?

I'm talking constitutional rights here not God's law. If you are pissed off at Clinton for his mistreatment of the military, great but don't take it out on me.

[DLfromthedesert]

I'm not taking anything out on you; you're taking this much too personally; it's merely a discussion. I don't know if you've ever seen Elaine Donnelly from the Center on Military Preparedness. Her concern is the feminization of the military and the dangers therein.

My concern is about the defense of the country. Undermining the military by gender norming does not enhance our defense.

I don't know what your issues are concerning men's rights; I've read a lot of what you are concerned about re: property rights and environmental extremism and I agree with you on those issues.

Our Constitution was conceived by people who were in concert with God's laws.