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To: Badray; nonliberal; no dems; zeugma; nopardons; staytrue; DameAutour; ladyinred; CitizenUSA; ...

Hooray for Badray and every other principled patriot! I wish you luck in ousting Spectre.

To everyone else in this thread except nonliberal, nodems, and zeugma; the principles we conservatives hold dear can be espoused by whomever, even a principled conservative dem. I know that sounds like an oxymoron but relatively speaking, some dems are simply more conservative than some republicans. Heck, in the South, dems are usually more conservative than any republican from the Northeast.

I know you will have to hold your nose to vote for a dem, but I have had to hold my nose to vote for some republicans. As nonliberal knows, we Iowans had a good chance at unseating Tom Harkin, but the "party faithful" Republicans blew it and nominated Ganske instead. I knew Ganske couldn't beat Harkin, and told many people before the general election.

Same thing has happened with other chances, such as Bob Dole, for one. Why do republicans keep shooting themselves in the foot? When there is a conservative vs. a "known" but liberal republican in the primary, the party drinks the koolaid rather than taking on the issues in a frontal assault.

As to whether we are better off with a "D" or an "R", let me tell you; my own congress-liberal, Tom Latham(R-IA4), has a worse voting record on the issues (conservative vs. liberal) than neighboring Leonard Boswell(D-IA3).

Do I want Latham to gain power, prestige, seniority, and possibly a senatorship? Heck no! I want him replaced! Senator Grassley, too, for that matter. And when Harkin's seat is up for grabs again, I will once again be supporting Bill Salier for Senate. Just too bad we have no republican primary to challenge Latham this time.


453 posted on 06/02/2004 9:21:07 AM PDT by Designer (Sysiphus Sr. to Junior; "It was uphill, all the way, both ways!")
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To: Designer
Hooray for Badray and every other principled patriot! I wish you luck in ousting Spectre.

And it seems that you are beating yourself off on the prospect of Hoeffel(Hillary fly monkey) getting the Senatorial seat in PA.

Seems plausible with a screenname like yours, Designer.

456 posted on 06/02/2004 9:35:41 AM PDT by Dane
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To: Designer
As to whether we are better off with a "D" or an "R", let me tell you; my own congress-liberal, Tom Latham(R-IA4), has a worse voting record on the issues (conservative vs. liberal) than neighboring Leonard Boswell(D-IA3).

Your comparison does not apply to this debate, though. Badray insists we replace Specter (R) with Hoeffel (D), because Specter is "unreliable".

Specter's lifetime ACU rating is 43.
Hoeffel's lifetime ACU rating is 8.

Hillary's lifetime ACU rating is 11.
Bernie Sanders, admitted Socialist, ACU rating is 7.

461 posted on 06/02/2004 10:38:19 AM PDT by Tamzee (Kerry's just a gigolo, and everywhere he goes, people know the part he's playing...)
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To: Designer

Thanks for your kind and rational words of support. Although you are not directly involved in our PA fight, you understand because you've seen the same thing happen in your backyard. I only wish these detractors would look at the motivation and challenge that if they find it faulty. So far no one has except to make false and unproven assertions.

No wonder the GOP has drifted leftward. They are so used to supporting lefties, they no longer consider them lefties.

Welcome to FR. Just be sure to have an asbestos suit handy.


490 posted on 06/02/2004 12:05:01 PM PDT by Badray (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown. RIP harpseal.)
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To: Designer
As to whether we are better off with a "D" or an "R", let me tell you; my own congress-liberal, Tom Latham(R-IA4), has a worse voting record on the issues (conservative vs. liberal) than neighboring Leonard Boswell(D-IA3).

Sure, a look at the American Conservative Union ratings for Iowa show that Latham has a lifetime ACU rating of 88 and Boswell has a rating of 31.

So, Latham has a "worse voting record on the issues" than Boswell, in your esteemed "True Principled Conservative" judgement?

Come One! Come All! See Badray and his "stop Specter" Mensa Society crew yakking politics from head injury clinics across this fruited plain!

496 posted on 06/02/2004 12:11:41 PM PDT by Barlowmaker
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