[BurbankKarl]

I think PC is already helping us lose the battle. I think we are going to get hit big again...it may take a couple more times until people "get it"

[Indie]

You're right. Ignorance of the truth is one thing, but knowing the truth and denying its validity because it goes against our human understanding is pure folly. [yes that was a veiled insult to islamonazis as being subhuman, lest there be any doubt]

[BurbankKarl]

Looks like Indiana is now out of the woods....East Coast states now...what a storm

[nw_arizona_granny]

Karl,

You are correct, I too think that we will be hit hard the next time.

But even if we are, I fear there are enough of the others who are against this war, that will still say it is our fault, as we are the bullies.