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To: Rushmore Rocks
I listen to KDWN talk radio, recently we are hearing more callers, who say they are (and voice sounds) muslim.

This station does not screen calls, therefore the callers are simply the "next caller".

One of the men that I have heard is a very learned man and he talks of the muslim religion, both the good and the bad in a manner that you are glad you heard him.

But there are also a few of the hot head calls, not many and none now for a couple weeks, but I could have missed them.

KDWN AM Radio, 720 on the dial, a big station heard all over th west. Located in Las Vegas, Nv.

Remember a year or so ago when the muslim man overheard a terrorist plot on his cell phone? and he reported it.

The FBI said it was not true, Sierra Times.com (?) also interviewed him and felt that it was true.

The Idaho Nazi group came to this area and I thought that I
heard on the radio that they had opened a camp, not here, I don't recall the new location, I am thinking it was Nevada.

I am in Mohave County, Az only 100 miles from Las Vegas.
2,961 posted on 06/07/2004 12:40:50 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny (You can help win the election by becoming a REGISTRAR OF VOTERS, easy go to Court House and sign up)
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To: nw_arizona_granny; All

OK guys here is some other stuff I don't like:

- The Mujadadeen Poisons Handbook is making the rounds again
- Directions one how to make and use the homemade cyanide bomb, complete with shopping list, are on most of the forums
- A new posting that i am working on translating today starts out "Illusions make the pictures"

Heck there's no way I can translate that before tonight. Here's the Ajeeb. I know it sucks but I HAVE to get this report finished at work!

BEGIN TRANSLATION

Illusions make the pictures : from Lawrence Of Arabia to Al-Ujaili Alyaor


Ï . the rebel of the league

No the doubt that the appearance of the external man is by his nomadic dress from Alghtra to the headband and Aldshdasha as its nominal belonging to a tribe roll up they have played an important role in the choice of the Americans to the man a new president to Iraq .And no escape that one what in the headquarters of the British intelligences he is the owner of this consultation .. On the basis of Lawrence Of Arabia 's experience . And he consolidates this probability what was said about the man father relation, Al-Ujaili, with afflicting Bill the sublime delegate the British in Iraq during the period of the occupation and also, and the generosity of the man uncle in Britain and his participation in London conference of the Iraqi opposition before the American aggression on Iraq . And it is said the uncle is from the advice of its my nephew on the residence in Iraq after it the biggest half from its life has judged between the United States of America and the Saudi kingdom .
The man form by his nomadic dress refers to an originality and a belonging to an old Arab history . As for the man content ............
But who will care by the content in the world of its affectation the forms ¿ who will ask about details from a kind that the man may be culturally throughout his study and his living in the United States, on the western way .And who will care for the political project that the man came in his context to the presidency, and he is the invasion project and the American occupation of Iraq ¿
Languages in the world of its affectation the pictures, and the picture points to an original Arab Iraqi belonging .
So the Americans think the picture makers ........
And so the headband and Alghtra and Aldshdasha turns to several occupation only, because the man and with no doubt was wearing the necktie and wears an official set during its presence in America . The clothes are the need of the work in the world of its affectation the pictures .( according to what the American imagines the picture maker )
But what about the other party, the party that the copy, any Iraqi Arab nation mainly and the Arab nation heads for as all by the second-class .Will he be convinced of the picture and it controls its heart then does not move its mind and wonders about behind the picture ¿
The British intelligences answer this question with recalling of Lawrence 's file ...........
Lawrence Of Arabia 's project was from the more successful projects of the British intelligences in our Arab region in east of Suez . He has played an important role in the British invasion of this region . And the impersonation of the man has played to the Bedouin role the region son whether through his mastery the dialect or lessons its wearing the nomadic clothes and its knowledge of the habits of saddlebag and desert an important role in its success by Al-Sharif Hussain 's army command during his march to Damascus for the dismissal of the Ottomans which paved the way in front of Al-Lenby 's army creeping on Palestine from Suez . Then Nagah Lawrence 's imagination does not be possible in its tasks if it is not wearing the Bedouins clothes and did not speak their language .
The picture has played a decisive role in its success ....
Languages in the world of its affectation the pictures !!
And today because of the spread of the ways of the western life through the cinema, and the television, and the means of communication, and the education, and the production and the consumption, there was not a need for the seeking help from Lawrence in the west of the birth because the cultural and educational alienation is the creation of a possibility for the industry of thousands localism Allornsat and from the region sons in the birth and . and the calendar is single an eastern dress and an Arabic tongue, and a culture and a thought and western interests as he the original state with Lawrence that wrote that says :
( ( he has requested from me that I live with these Arabs as a strange man, do not estimate that he keeps up with them in their beliefs and their thought, and was obliged for their training and their direction in the trend that harmonizes and the politics of Britain fighting their enemy . And if I failed in the understanding of their character, except I succeeded at least, in the hiding of my character from them then it merged with them and it became one of them without a protest or an objection ....))
And by this dense cultural alienation we have arrived to the local Lawrence, the one that arrives in his clearest revelations to Al-Sayyed Alyaor, the original the one that all his task as Lawrence is restricted is in hiding its true character and in that it directs the Iraqis with what serves the American policy .
No the doubt that one in the British intelligences it has not bring the original Lawrence file and he offered it to the Americans as an advice and he thinks that the experience is accepting the success again . And the Americans received, and on not their habit, the advice eagerly because it may save them from the Iraqi swamp that deluges with it Imbrtorithm . And their silent language says the old British empire no it is discredited because it is more knowledgeable than them by the region affairs, and year experience has proved from the occupation the correctness of the British warnings that America did not care to them in the beginning .
The American British have warned, before the aggression on Iraq, warned them of the repetition of an experience the century beginning when the British colonist carried out the solution of the Iraqi state body because it is inherited from the Ottoman stage then the result was Twentieth Revolution, then the British returned to the toast that kept it and delivered it the state body content with the repetition of its qualification so that it makes with them . But the American that hates the history because it without a history and considers that the lack of the date is its preferential advantage about Europe the burdened oldster by his history which binds him about the liberation . The American that considers the absence of the history a positive advantage contrary to the nations great that crosses the fastening of the attribute of the absence of the history by it an insult . The American that handles according to a principle ( ( so that we forget the past, so that we forget each thing and to we start from now ) ) from this moment and without the past knots ( so they point to the date ) . The American that does not know be that it handles except with contempt of the history, carried out doing all what it warned of it that the British followed up then it destroyed the Iraqi country and the solution of the army and the security authority by a mixture from the stupidity and the conceit of the force and its arrogance and drowned in the history industry illusion as wants and on the basis of any conditions . But the date it had an another opinion then Iraq civilization, that reaches its age is more than eight thousands year and the finished one to an Islamic Arab civilization, it had an another opinion . Then she was the resistance that descends from terrific civilized and depth myself no recognizes by the mathematics laws my laws for the life and here the considerations of the Americans were disturbed, that they by the origin they were built on mere mathematical calculations they recognize only the scale of the material and military powers then they do not understand other . Then since they them they collide with the truths of civilization and history and the terrific psychological depth to Iraq and this things they do not understand them then felt that they fell by a trap no release from it . And at this moment the new Lawrence project comes . Despite what that means from a contradiction with the American speech that links all what is for it a relation by the region heritage from a dress and a food and a drink with the backwardness and the dictatorship, and it imposes its displacement a form and content so that the entrance into the democratic paradise and the American modernism take place, and what that means from matching of Albagh Gi 's form with this project as being he wears the necktie and for it the reputation of a liberalism and its picture indicates the similarity to the western human .
Languages in the world of its affectation the pictures .........¿
The invaders neglect what occurred to Iraq structure and the Arabs from terrific changes through a complete century .Which makes the repetition of experience repetition Lawrence second I liken by the farce as said by Marks in the eighteenth from Bromir ( the history repeats himself twice per the first a tragedy and in the second a farce )
Illusions make he was described . And forms make illusions . And an Orientalist thought estimates that it imagines the Arabs except in the shape of tribes that think only of its emotion and no place to the mind at them and on these Orientalist illusions the occupiers build the political programs that will reach under the hitting of the resistance an international disaster over their heads .

The Orientalism was built on many myths from them that the region that a group of the groups lives ( it did not arrive to the nationalism stage ) and the sects and the clans ( and the English in particular love the clans story a lot ) their control is struggle relation which and permanently to a power from outside the region for the repair of this internal conflict and with the printing it requires that this power should be western .
Since the beginning of the invasion of Iraq it took place the restoration of this side from the Orientalist thought then the talk took place about Iraq ( specially Iraq Arabs, where that the Kurds and the Turkmen in this stage the western thought did not subject them to its Orientalist method then it recognized they them as nationalisms ) . The talk ran about the Arabs by the terms of Sunni and Shiites . And through a complete year it was the satellite channels speaking the Arabic ( and is not the Arabic ) and the analysts were the orientalist politicians, from the Arabs the pupils of the noble orientalists and from the Westerners speak about Iraq year and its Shiites and the conflict relation that chooses as arbitrator them and the necessity of the relation repair between the two parties so that they do not fight and definitely this catch does not take place except with the presence of the American forces . And if a more statistics took place two words their discussion took place since the aggression on Iraq Logdthma of all my word confirmation, a Sunni and Shiites, and the invention of names took place from the type of the Sunni triangle and the Shiite rectangle .And the description of these blocks took place by similar attributes what is genetic
( the hereditary ) like that the year is frustrated because they lost the authority and the Shiites they do not resist because they aspire to the authority . Then the revolution of April came then overthrew all these concepts then becomes NOT mentioned Sunni word and Shiites at all . But it appears that the playing will take place on a new string that believe that the British are officials about it . And it appears that they brought it out of their drawers, and she is the tribalism, then Al-Yawer 's bringing a president took place despite that he was from a like the certain that the president is according to the divisions and the original American plans from the Shiite sect ...........
The repetition of Lawrence Of Arabia ( Al-Yawer ) 's production is an ideal model of the thought of the Orientalist that is still fancying that the forms make the world under conditions the pictures product . But the resistance that increases day after day will make it discovers a late that it was the prisoner of his pictures who consolidated his illusions and claimed it to the disaster ....


2,964 posted on 06/07/2004 12:46:27 PM PDT by StillProud2BeFree
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To: nw_arizona_granny

I am hearing this also. And the left wing wackOs.

I apologize for eveything and all things. I am truly sorry.
DC


2,987 posted on 06/07/2004 1:21:27 PM PDT by DAVEY CROCKETT (There is no such thing as coincidence, GOD is in control.)
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