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To: bvw

"It will stop, and my interest ..... is in making it stop faster"

It will wax and wane.......but it won't stop, but it wouldn't break my heart if it did.


"Americans are good at things intimately and intrinsically part of manufacturing, systems, engineering and sofware that just can not be found in any measure in other countries."

What americans are really good at is allowing capital to follow opportunity to generate more capital. All other things are secondary and support the generation of capital in a free market.


"unique abilities are very much obscured and cut off from circulation by gross accumulations of "fat" -- they require either leaness in the economy or better yet a proper seperation of fat and lean"

What you should be focusing on is getting the gov't out of punishing business for success, for making money, for having employees, for growing. That will bring innovation and growth back to america faster than anything. What's most significant is not the outsourcing.... it's the reason behind why outsourcing is such a compelling draw, and that is gov't taxes and bureaucracy that punishes activities that are performed in this country.

You make an interesting, but somewhat futile point though...... Don't you think that if you got it your way, companies would still be faced with the same problems that are leading them to outsource today?


71 posted on 05/23/2004 6:49:04 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: RFEngineer
it's the reason behind why outsourcing is such a compelling draw, and that is gov't taxes and bureaucracy that punishes activities that are performed in this country.

That is a key point. Maybe even the key point to consider in this debate.

84 posted on 05/24/2004 5:25:50 AM PDT by leadpencil1 (Kerry reminds me of a technicolor yawn)
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To: RFEngineer
I'm no what-iffer. Solely and most only-ly "what is."

Corporations are rogue beasts -- wild in growth, fueled by fiat money and no accountability except loyalty, fealty and a cut to the great Federal and Money-center "upstreams".

At the beginning we chartered them, and kept a unilateral sovereign's right to change or revoke that charter. It was once -- at the start -- that individuals were sovereign and the government was chartered (a non-revocable charter that, I hold too) and governments acting as agents of The People would issue charters containing restrictions and demanding fealty and preservations of interests of the People upon whose behalf such charters were issued.

Such interests include primary and dominant regard for mainataining National resources in manufacturing, engineering and technology -- not to mention jobs. Simple rule -- why should I allow you the use of my car or of my house if you shall be me no rent nor abide any rules nor cut me into the good profits -- not to mention not ruining my property and my own wherewithal? Yet that is what corporations do -- and know they claim the sovereignity of individuals and then some. They are Super-Individuals enjoying immuninties and priviledges no individual may claim.

No greater nor grotesquely porcine, and swarmily unctuous welfare mama is there than the great corporations!

That is rogue. Bad mojo. Rebellion, Trespass, Extortion and Theft.

Like dinosaurs they are all dead, and so big yet the death notice is long to travel to all parts of the leviathans. Should they not fall over on us, nor in their remaining mortal and morbid grotesque dances chance to step on any of us.

That is almost all I ask -- almost -- except that I too want my fair cuts of their flesh -- for we must eat and feast enjoyably on their dead corpses.

89 posted on 05/25/2004 8:42:12 PM PDT by bvw
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