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To: jnarcus
Are these atrocities? NO but pulling apart bodies and burning them to a crisp and then hanging them from a bridge certainly is

So mutilating dead bodies is more heinous than torturing live ones? Based on this alone I'd say your ideas of morality are worse than worthless - are EVIL.

If my son or daughter were fighting against US troops and for the Islamic nations of the world...I would not really care much as to what was done to them

And if they were fighting for the U.S., were captured, and subjected to this treatment while prisoners? How would you feel then? Would you still be willing to say they were victims of over-sexed, out-of-control frat boys?

Killing six million people because you are a psychopatic meth head certainly is

Hitler didn't become a meth-head until he was faced with certain defeat - long after he decided to kill the six million. He made that decision rationally - because he believed the Jews were the embodiment of pure EVIL, a belief which many Christians held for hundreds of years, and which most Muslims now hold.

I will say again that Islam is EVIL started out EVIL has throughout its history been EVIL and as long as it remains commited to the Koran will contie to be EVIL.

I don't think you realize how much of the world holds that view of us (the U.S. is the Great Satan, remember?...and the Euros agree) - especially since Bush became President. Once thinking like this takes over - and you allow your enemies to be demonized - every act becomes justifiable no matter how despicable or cruel.

30 posted on 05/24/2004 7:22:11 AM PDT by liberallarry
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To: liberallarry
Here are two articles which I think you should read;

Rumsfeld bans camera phones

If true (I have no way of verifying), it's an admission of guilt by the Administration and a desire to cover up any future, heinous acts.

What have we done?

Sontag's piece is basically long-winded, self-flagellating, anti-American garbage (because she refuses to face honestly inherent human brutality, and the difficulties of fighting a really bad, dangerous enemy while being hampered at home by politically correct, morons like herself who refuse to admit the necessity of personal sacrifice) but it does illustrate well the dangers of allowing brutality to reign unchecked.

It's because of these dangers that I prefer a policy of telling Muslims that if they support terrorists and allow them to hide in their midst they will have to pay the price (Fallujuah flattened and all its inhabitants killed) to our present policy of unenending detentions and increasingly brutal "interrogation" (torture). We will be hated - perhaps even more than now - but our actions will be open and upfront and we will be treating our enemies honestly - as enemies - and not dishonestly as "innocent" civilians...which will force them to be honest as well.

32 posted on 05/24/2004 7:56:32 AM PDT by liberallarry
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To: liberallarry

Since i am a student of history, I will guarantee you that if a US soldier is captured they can in fact expect to be tortured and brutalized in ways that these bad guys haven't even dreamed of. You seem to be a very left wing nut because you twist my wordsx into thigs I never said. You suggest that I think torturing humans is less henious than the mutilation I discribed. Never said don't believe it...but what happened at Abu Ghraib is not torture. Hitler it is well established was a meth head from about 1931 onwards. He was switched over to heroin just before the collapse of Germany during the last phases of the war. Again note I have NEVER said that Muslims are the embodiment of evil. What I have said is that Islam ( the Koran and its belief system) are evil. And frankly I don't give a hoot what most of Europe or the rest of the world thinks of the US. They have been consistently wrong over the last 50 years so why would they get it right now?


46 posted on 05/24/2004 7:42:34 PM PDT by jnarcus
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