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To: Vets_Husband_and_Wife
She isn't "ill"

According to what I have read, Terri collapsed in 1990 as a result of "three-stage progression of a potassium imbalance that caused a heart attack, depriving her brain of oxygen." As a result, she is now almost totally incapacitated, with arguments over whether or not she is in a "persistent vegatative state" based on the statutory language that includes "any" If you don't think that's an illness, I guess I must have a special dictionary.

she was brain damaged from her husband and she needs to be "rehabilitated".

This kind of writing is exactly what I'm talking about. There isn't a shred of evidence anywhere that she is "brain damaged" from her husband. What a total load of crap. This is the kind of exaggeration, speculation and lies that make so many of the pro-Terri posts totally unbelievable. Point me to any real evidence that says she is "brain damaged from her husband" - and if its credible, I'll jump on the band wagon.

I know it makes her story sound a whole lot better, and it adds a touch of evil to Michael Schiavo that makes a lot of people feel more comfortable with believing that her parents are pure and good, and that her husband is evil and bad, but there I haven't seen anything but innuendo to even suggest that her present condition is caused by domestic abuse.

Cite me anything at all that provides credible evidence that her brain injury was caused by her husband.
125 posted on 05/19/2004 8:17:44 AM PDT by Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh
>> According to what I have read, Terri collapsed in 1990 as a result of "three-stage progression of a potassium imbalance that caused a heart attack, depriving her brain of oxygen."

Examining physicians have since determined that Terri has never had a heart attack. So much for the potassium imbalance theory, which was far-fetched in the first place. Such a collapse is rare in a healthy 26-year-old woman. Rare means rare.

If you remember Ockham's Razor, you don't introduce complications, you look for the most common, plausible, uncomplicated explanation. And that is: domestic violence.

>> There isn't a shred of evidence anywhere that she is "brain damaged" from her husband. What a total load of crap.

The bone scan is highly plausible evidence, and so revealing that I believe one can reasonably reconstruct what happened that night. According to one physician, Terri suffered 13 major traumas with the force of a severe auto wreck or a terrible beating. Except she wasn't in an auto wreck. Other physicians, including two in this forum, have examined the scan and confirm the level of violence Terri suffered. There is only one suspect, and he is known to have been livid at her and quarrelling with her all that day over her spending $80 on a haircut.

The traumas Terri suffered are consistent with great force being applied -- from behind -- to Terri's head, neck, back and upper leg. The picture that fits to a tee is of a much heavier man on Terri's back, pinning her with a knee in her back (which was broken) and on her upper leg (which was broken), pushing her face down until she was asphyxiated and stopped breating. A physician asserted that she had a neck trauma that is also consistent with strangulation / asphyxiation.

Ockham and I -- and I daresay Michael -- agree on this one, she was a victim of DV. There's more evidence but who needs it.

As I told you, she's not ill.

128 posted on 05/19/2004 9:35:49 AM PDT by T'wit (Liberal to child: you'll sink into depravity eventually, so do it at home, now, where it's hygienic)
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh

If you go to the original records you will be able to garner exactly what is presented here in this chart. Someone is covering up something here and his name is Michael Schiavo - the one who continues in his attempts to commit murder on the person of Terri Schindler Schiavo. Don't you agree he and those who aid him must be stopped?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1131600/posts?page=350#350


129 posted on 05/19/2004 9:54:38 AM PDT by pc93
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh

I think post 128 bout says it all. Why be redundant? LOL


130 posted on 05/19/2004 10:42:14 AM PDT by Vets_Husband_and_Wife
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh

Oh and nice seeing ya Michael.


131 posted on 05/19/2004 10:43:34 AM PDT by Vets_Husband_and_Wife
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh

CORRECTION: Should have said: "Oh and nice seeing ya Michael." </sarcasm



132 posted on 05/19/2004 10:45:35 AM PDT by Vets_Husband_and_Wife
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh

Could you please provide a reference where you obtained this quote: "three-stage progression of a potassium imbalance that caused a heart attack, depriving her brain of oxygen." I would be interested in knowing where it was said, and by whom. Thanks.

As far as the rest of your post, you have a point, there is a lot of speculation and innuendo going on about how Terri got where she is. I think this is legitimate debate, but also somewhat moot. The fact is, although her collapse is not well-understood, there is plenty of documentation to support the idea that Michael has systematically tried to encourage Terri's death over these last 10 years, from the time the jury awarded the money from the malpractice trial.

I'd like to be able to assume that because you come to FR you have the capacity to understand that not everything the mass media puts out there for us is the whole truth. It is my opinion that they can only give us so much to go on, and the rest we have to work for ourselves. There is a lot about Terri in the mainstream media that explicitly says she is comatose and brain-dead. If you take that as true on its face value, you will be being misled about Terri from the get-go. There is plenty of verifiable documentation that shows Terri is not comatose, nor brain-dead.

There is credible evidence to suggest that Michael may have caused Terri's injury, or at least been partially responsible for it. That it wasn't fully investigated at the time remains a great concern. But with a little footwork on your own, as I have done, you could learn this easily. For starters do a search on how a potassium imbalance happens in the first place. There are a few ways it can occur. Research shows that a life-threatening fight can cause our electrolytes to shift suddenly, and sometimes the flow of oxygen from the heart is cut off. Terri did not have a "heart attack", but her heart did stop beating momentarily (cardiac arrest). A true heart attack leaves evidence of dead-tissue behind, which Terri does not have. If you do the recommended research, I'm sure you can locate one of the resources that could link you to this information. Much of the documentation I'm speaking of comes in the .pdf format and can be found on these many Terri threads. Whether or not you choose to look at them is up to you.

That you have a question over whether or not Terri is "ill" is going to depend on the way you define it. I personally think that illness is could be construed as temporary or, for some afflictions, permanent. While it may be true that Terri could be considered permanently brain-damaged, this does not have to suggest that she is necessarily permanently ill. Many people have brain injuries and are yet considered otherwise healthy. Just go look at any of your local mentally retarded, developmentally disabled individuals for the proof of that. It is open to debate as to whether Terri is permanently reliant on a feeding tube.

If you would like legitimate discussion about Terri and her condition, please do look at information you are provided with an open mind. I did not come to the Schindler's side by believing everything I was told without verifying as much information as I could. Believe me, if I were allowed to visit Terri myself, I would. I would love to visit with her, just as her parents and family would like to do. For now, I have to be happy with the privilege to pray for her, and work on her behalf from the sidelines.


133 posted on 05/19/2004 10:59:25 AM PDT by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh

You can find a lot of information on Terri on www.terrisfight.org. Please take time to read this information. The evidence shows that Terri was the victim of domestic abuse.


140 posted on 05/19/2004 3:44:08 PM PDT by amdgmary
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