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Threat Matrix: Daily Terror Threat - Thread Eight
CNN ^ | 5-17-04 | Various

Posted on 05/17/2004 12:36:39 AM PDT by JustPiper

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To: Fred Nerks

From our point of view on Earth, there are three bodies that have a crescent when we view them: Mercury, Venus and Luna. Of course from a different vantage point (such as a space probe) every planet and moon will show a dark side.


361 posted on 05/18/2004 12:03:06 AM PDT by thecabal ("For all that you hold dear on this good Earth, I bid you stand, Men of the West!" --Aragorn)
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To: thecabal
"What do I have to say?" you ask.

my answer has to be "I told you so!"

I have said for months that Noory was up to something and anti-american. Then someone said he is an arab.

I caught him attempting to push guests into bad mouthing the Gov, and some guests coming right out and saying "That is NOT what I said or meant".

I have heard Noory say clearly that he had his own agenda and have heard him say that he will be putting on more about the secret societies.

I heard both programs that Booth was on, the last one when Noory threw him off.....Booth was a lousy speaker that night and was clearly telling lies.

I am always nervous of people who have a book to sell, but then God has not given me a message that the earth would be destroyed. God does when giving messages, sometimes tell you how to handle it.

I have heard Wayne Greene talk about Cold Fusion, and we have the death of Dr. Mallove this week. I missed the first part of the C To C show tonight, but it was about Dr. Mallove and should be replayed in the 2 am to 3 am slot again, it is in most places.

The guest tonight is talking about 'secret societies'. I can't listen to it and will turn it off......done.

On the Noory show, I have 2 or 3 times heard a caller who made no sense to the show, give a message and Noory allowed it to go through and it left me wondering "What and Why was that on the air?".

It is my opinion that Noory is pushing the communist manifesto to a "T". he does all he can to push witches, ghosts and anything 'spacey'.

Some reports, the Gov. has released on the news and he will twist them to fit his needs of leading people.

the invisible airplanes info, is all over the reports, a simple matter of the paint used, yet, it has been hyped as outer space. If I can know the truth, when it is not a subject that I am interested in, then he has to know.

He also hypes the triangle shaped planes, what a joke, I have seen the pictures freely on the Internet, even to showing off at the Rose Bowl Parade and game.

The simple answer to all of this is, "If God wants to send us a comet, we will get a comet and if it hits, we will do nothing, as there is nothing you can do."

Dr. Bill Wattenberg of KGO 810 on AM dial, still does a Sat and Sunday show, 10pm to 1 am, from San Francisco, he is a Nuclear Physicist (sp?), yes, a real one, a caller asked about the possibility of changing the course of a comet and his answer was simple, "Cannot be done". Of course Noory will tell you that it can.

The one thing that makes me think there was a "plan" on Noory's show, was that in the beginning, Noory was really pushing the "we are going to get hit", then all of a sudden he was having guests who said we were "NOT" going to get hit.

All the Yellowstone is going to explode fears are from Noory, then he backed off on that also. I do think that the terrorists could attempt something at Yellowstone, even if it does not do all that we fear, the very fact that they cause an explosion there, will drive many insane.

And of course, Noory will quickly have a guest on that says the American Gov. set it off.

Any report that says the American Gov. "did it", will be found on a communist site first, before you hear it.

My fears are more on finding the terrorists and spotting them - before they hit us.

Dr. Mallove is dead - murdered and as a scientist, must be now placed on the list of dead American scientists, of which there are way too many.

Do a google search for:

murdered American scientists

Also do:

1425 murdered American scientists

Out of the over 30,000 returns, can you figure out why they were killed or what type of scientist has the most killed?

I have read that the scientists who are killed in large numbers are the ones who are searching for the cures to things like ebola, norovirus and other needed 'today' cures.

I haven't attempted to search for muslim scientists, that might be interesting. Wonder how many were murdered? several by saddam, as I recall.

Kingman does not show up on the 'muslim maps', but we have a mosque, that is about 20 years old and a bunch of arab type doctors, in fact most of the Kingman doctors are not American.

We are loosing the purpose of this thread, if we are not careful, we will have wasted several good minds, as they wander off into the C to C type studies, that will not catch a terrorist and that is the very goal of the people like Noory.

Distract them and make them think about un-important things, pure mannifesto game.

Anyway, that is my opinion and I am working at getting back to chasing the terrorist, as the threats are coming in, even our President has warned us of a coming threat, as in Spain and he has done his part, all of these programs to get ready have to be for a reason.

I don't see that he can do very much more (yes, except close the borders).
362 posted on 05/18/2004 12:58:38 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny (You can help win the election by becoming a REGISTRAR OF VOTERS, easy go to Court House and sign up)
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To: thecabal

sorry, I didn't write that very well. I meant to say, print out the Venus picture from the Drugde site and turn it upside down. Compare with the planet in the montage. The landmark feature on the left hand side of the 'eye' crater appears to be similar...maybe? Thanks for your reply.


363 posted on 05/18/2004 1:02:40 AM PDT by Fred Nerks
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To: All; Calpernia
Did you see these threads?

How many more snakes are there and where did they come from?

"Box of deadly snakes found near clinton library"

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1137590/posts

Muslim threatens to kill President Bush

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1137585/posts
364 posted on 05/18/2004 1:58:56 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny (You can help win the election by becoming a REGISTRAR OF VOTERS, easy go to Court House and sign up)
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To: Oorang; Rushmore Rocks; KylaStarr
More recent animal deaths.....

More Animals Sickened by Poison near Jackson (WY) Associated Press JACKSON (AP) - More than 20 dogs have now been sickened or killed after eating poisoned hot dogs investigators believe were meant for wolves.

The latest illnesses brings the tally to 21 dogs stricken by the poison in Wyoming and Idaho in the past two months. The first sick dog was found in Teton County in March.

Authorities have discovered hot dogs cored and then filled with a highly toxic pesticide, which looks like black table salt. They have speculated that the baits were put out to kill wolves - not pets.

Riverton residents Jim and Nancy Barrus almost lost their black lab Sammy recently after the dog apparently ate one of the poisoned hot dogs near a scenic turnout on Togwotee Pass.

Sammy is recovering after throwing up and receiving two shots of an antidote for the poison, his owners said. Jim Barrus had not heard of the poisonings or seen warnings to keep a close eye on pets. He urged law enforcement to step up education efforts, but acknowledged that will not be easy.

"How do you get the word out to the unsuspecting person like me?" he said. A $20,000 reward is now being offered for information leading to an arrest in the case.

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Chronic Wasting Disease Moves South in Colorado

COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. (AP) — Chronic wasting disease has been found for the first time in the Colorado Springs area, the southernmost advance of the ailment in Colorado.

An emaciated mule deer buck that was found dead in the southwest part of the city tested positive for the disease, state Division of Wildlife spokesman Todd Malmsbury said May 3.

The deer was at least 40 miles south of the nearest previous discovery of the disease, Malmsbury said.

The find was unexpected, but the distance of the latest leap in the disease was not unusual, he said. “We’ve seen larger jumps on the map than this,” Malmsbury said.

The disease had earlier been found in northeast and northwest Colorado. It has also been found in wild deer and domesticated elk herds in 11 other states and Canada.

Chronic wasting disease creates sponge-like holes in the brains of deer or elk, causing the animal to grow thin, act abnormally and die. It is a prion disease, similar to mad cow disease.

There never has been a known case of it being transferred to humans or livestock, but people are cautioned not to eat the brain, nervous tissue or lymph glands of the animals. A resident alerted the Division of Wildlife to the deer, and tests confirmed the disease on Friday. “We will conduct additional surveillance in Colorado Springs and the surrounding area to determine if there are more animals with CWD,” said Mark Konishi, southeastern Colorado regional manager for the Division of Wildlife. He encouraged hunters to have their elk and deer tested for the disease this fall.

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Salmonella Kills 16 Horses At College Vet Clinic Clinic Closed Down Until Further Notice (PA)

POSTED: 6:13 pm EDT May 13, 2004 UPDATED: 7:53 am EDT May 14, 2004

The University of Pennsylvania has closed part of its Chester County vet clinic because of a salmonella outbreak that has killed 16 horses.

The George D. Widener Hospital for Large Animals is located at New Bolton Center in East Marlborough Township, Pa. No new patients will be accepted for the next four to six weeks because of the outbreak. Officials will have to disinfect about 18 of the center's 70 buildings.

The bacteria infection has mostly hit horses. Some of the horses have died during the outbreak. No humans have been affected. Officials said the problem does not pose a risk to neighbors of the facility. Workers will have to disinfect about 18 of the center's 70 buildings before it is deemed safe. At least one building reportedly will have to be scrubbed down and repainted. They don't expect to reopen until July.

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Interesting Salmonella info....

New Drug-Resistant Strain of Salmonella Found Two common antibiotics ineffective against it

By Ed Edelson HealthDay Reporter FRIDAY, April 16 (HealthDayNews) -- Taiwanese doctors have identified a potentially fatal strain of salmonella bacteria that is resistant to two antibiotics widely used to treat serious infections.

The appearance of the multi-resistant strain "is a serious threat to public health, and thus constant surveillance is warranted," physicians at the Chang Gung University College of Medicine report in the April 17 issue of The Lancet.

About 40,000 salmonella infections are reported in the United States each year. Most cause diarrhea and other intestinal problems that clear up in a few days without antibiotic treatment. Infections tend to be more common and more serious in underdeveloped countries because the bacteria is spread by contaminated food and water.

Most of the literally hundreds of strains of salmonella aren't particularly virulent. But the resistant bacteria detected in Taiwan belongs to a subgroup with the scientific name S. choleraesuis that can cause potentially fatal infections, the researchers said. About 600 Americans die each year from such infections.

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365 posted on 05/18/2004 3:16:50 AM PDT by all4one ("...a politician is to be judged by the animosities he excites among his opponents" Sir W. Churchill)
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To: Velveeta; Cindy; All
Velveeta, notice the time that this story was written...11:33 p.m....this was the third suitcase incident yesterday...NH...FLA...and now CA, all in the same day. What are the chances? Are response times being monitored? Hmmmmmmmm

Suspicious Suitcase Prompts Shopping-Center Evacuation (CA)

11:33 PM PDT on Monday, May 17, 2004 The Press-Enterprise Suspicions about a suitcase left in a Murrieta shopping center led to evacuations of three stores for about three hours Monday, authorities said.

The suitcase, which later was found to be empty, was noticed at about 4 p.m. in a parking lot on Madison Avenue near Murrieta Hot Springs Road, Sgt. Bob Landwehr said. "It seemed strange that nobody had called reporting a lost suitcase," he said. "A store manager said it was sitting on a Home Depot dolly for hours."

Erring on the side of caution, he said, three nearby stores and Home Depot's garden center were closed. The parking lot also was taped off, Landwehr said. At about 7 p.m., the Riverside County sheriff's Hazardous Device Team moved the suitcase to a secure area and determined there was nothing inside, Landwehr said. The shopping center was reopened.

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366 posted on 05/18/2004 3:29:46 AM PDT by all4one ("...a politician is to be judged by the animosities he excites among his opponents" Sir W. Churchill)
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To: all4one

Remember the strange bottles of water that kept turning up in the subway tunnels?

It is either a test? or a sick joker.

You can buy used suitcases at garage sales and Goodwill type stores.

But I ran across a report in the past 2 weeks or so, about the number of thefts from the Goodwill 'drop off boxes'.

That would be handy, the suitcases would come complete with another persons finger prints already on them.

Is the day coming that we will have to wipe our prints off our trash?

All these false alarms serve 2 purposes, they get us to the point that we think that it is all a false alarm.

And they keep the Police busy on false alarms, as one of the terrorist directives suggests.

When we get careless, we will pay for it.


367 posted on 05/18/2004 3:40:15 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny (You can help win the election by becoming a REGISTRAR OF VOTERS, easy go to Court House and sign up)
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To: nw_arizona_granny

The thefts from the drop boxes sounds interesting. That way there would be no way to trace the purchaser or owner. Isn't amazing what different seemingly "unrelated" news stories stay with you? If a story somehow seems odd, you tend to file it for later use.

There have also been three incidents of bodies washing ashore in suitcases in the Virginia area.


368 posted on 05/18/2004 3:45:39 AM PDT by all4one ("...a politician is to be judged by the animosities he excites among his opponents" Sir W. Churchill)
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To: nw_arizona_granny

Words of wisdom and reason.....thanks, Granny.

Part of connecting the dots, is finding the 'right' dots.


369 posted on 05/18/2004 5:02:46 AM PDT by Rushmore Rocks
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To: all4one

Suitcases.

Now that is a word that you don't use everyday, but now all of a sudden it is in the news several times a day.

The last 2 times I bought them, they were Nylon type soft bags and not the hard ones at all.

It will be harder to trace them, when they are old and used.

Have you noticed that when a 'new idea' gets used, they use it till it is worn out.

As in the 'white powder' envelopes that were mailed.

Even the accidents come in bunches........then stop.

Heard on the news that the beam which fell in Colorado, was reported by a driver to 911 an hour before it fell.

Seems the 911 operator did not understand the message, that was all the radio said.


370 posted on 05/18/2004 5:15:38 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny (You can help win the election by becoming a REGISTRAR OF VOTERS, easy go to Court House and sign up)
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To: thecabal
"...Dr. Eugene Mallove"

Cold fusion murder? Any links? Can't help but be curious.

Most of the David Booth writing you posted read like a C grade movie script...all it needed was a chicken heart and some cheez whiz sound effects. Maybe somebody in special ops/Hollyweird has a fun assignment?
371 posted on 05/18/2004 5:51:01 AM PDT by Domestic Church (AMDG... Where is Harry Lime when you need him?)
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To: Domestic Church

Coast to Coast Am will replay this years interview with Dr. Mallove on Friday night, starting the second hour.

I think it deals with Cold Fusion.

The thread that I saw about his death is:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1136445/posts


372 posted on 05/18/2004 6:12:43 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny (You can help win the election by becoming a REGISTRAR OF VOTERS, easy go to Court House and sign up)
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To: nw_arizona_granny

NYPD ALERTS COPS TO 'TERROR INDICATORS'

By Tom Hays
The Associated Press
5/17/04 7:33 PM

NEW YORK (AP) -- The NYPD has ordered its patrol force to be more vigilant about spotting and reporting possible signs of terrorism, including individuals who "express hatred for America."

Guidelines titled "Possible Indicators of Terrorist Activity" were issued last week on cards designed to fit in police officers' memo books. The cards advise them to contact counterterrorism investigators when they have suspicions over anyone who is, among other things, carrying driver's licenses from different states, videotaping utilities and tunnels or wearing fake uniforms.

Members of the nation's largest police department also have been instructed to take note of "overtly hostile" people who "express hatred for America and advocate violence against America and/or Americans," or who "support terrorists and their goals."

The guidelines stress that the indicators are "general," and may "not necessarily mean that terrorist activity is being planned." They also caution officers not to interfere with free speech, or target anyone based on race or religion.

Still, the directive may be so broad that it invites civil rights abuses, said Donna Lieberman, executive director of the New York Civil Liberties Union.

"We're troubled that hostile statements would create suspicion of terrorism," Lieberman said on Monday. "Criticism of our country is supposed to be protected by the First Amendment."

NYPD spokesman Paul Browne said the guidelines were "not intended in any way to interfere with lawful protest." The cards were an attempt to put terror prevention tips "literally into the back pocket of every police officer," he said.

The cards warn officers to be on the lookout for people who approach a government building or other potential target on foot and abruptly turn away after spotting security officers; who possess notebooks filled with telephone numbers, but no names; and who videotape or photograph "any activity beyond what an ordinary tourist would do."

Inside a home, suspicious signs could include little or no furniture besides a mattress, the presence of radio scanners or night-vision equipment, and airline receipts showing the booking of flights with unnecessary layovers.

http://www.nj.com/breakingnews/index.ssf?/cgi-free/getstory_ssf.cgi?j0193_BC_NY--NYPD-TerrorIndica&&news&tradecentercrash


373 posted on 05/18/2004 6:17:08 AM PDT by freeperfromnj
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To: All
Of course all searches lead back to the Free Republic.

"Another University Professor Murdered - Iraq.
200 in last year".

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1133821/posts

The search at Google was a surprise, 8,800 returns on:

murdered muslim scientists

Don tinfoil and ask questions:

Who killed them?

Why?

Did they get killed for their notes on tests?

Did they get killed for the vials of germs they were using in the tests?

Were they killed after being forced to answer questions for a terrorist, on how to make or to use the chemicals?

What did they know? that a killer did not want anyone else to know?

Who would they identify?

Who paid for their death?

Why so many of them?

What relation do they have to American scientists who have been murdered?

Next, will have to try a world scientist search and I don't think that I want to see the answer.

Wasn't the man who died in England a scientist, it caused a big stink, went to the park and did an impossible suicide.

Seems there was a lying reporter involved, know it was news for a long time.

The first "Mad Cow" out break of disease in England came after a vial of the disease was stolen from a lab over the new years eve holiday of that year.

Now there is another variety of the Mad Cow disease.

That is more questions than I will ever see to research, but I wanted to 'see' them.
374 posted on 05/18/2004 6:40:16 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny (You can help win the election by becoming a REGISTRAR OF VOTERS, easy go to Court House and sign up)
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To: all4one

Either response times are being monitored, or it's some kind of diversion tactic. Thanks for the articles, I'm reading them all.


375 posted on 05/18/2004 7:00:10 AM PDT by Velveeta
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To: freeperfromnj
I fear that the terrorist threat is so large that the Gov. knows that they cannot stop all of the plans.

Like the 3 empty suitcases yesterday, in 3 different places.

Next time they won't be empty.

Pay close attention to President Bush, when he is speaking about something that he is allowed to say in his own words, he is a lovely speaker..............

But, when he is having to watch what he says, he garbles it so badly, it is almost impossible to understand him.

The last few days, he is impossible to understand, so to me that means that he has to be so careful of what he can say that it is choking him.

He is not a good liar.

President Bush is best when he shares his thoughts and not what he has been told to say.

Imagine what he must know.

I heard a FReeper explain once that the problem with President Bush, is not a lack of words, but rather that he is thinking so far ahead of what he is saying that he gets lost.

The Gov. has warned us, all that they can. I think that they dare not tell all, as they are having to rely on muslims for the information and until the terrorists are found, cannot give away any details.

My guess is that the mosques here are full of the ones who plan the attacks.

I base some of my thoughts, on past experience. When Sgt. Ogden of the Yuma County sheriffs department got a tip that the local body shop would be broken into, he asked me to take him there. I had a tail light on order, there, so had reason to go into the shop.

Sgt. Ogden was then a lovely 6'6'' mid 30's young man, and I had a 74 Toyota Corolla, the smallest Toyota.

We stuffed him into the laid back seat, I drove in and he got out with his suitcase of ? And he spent the night there, prepared to catch a group of robbers who were hitting all the businesses in our little town.

They didn't show up to rob the shop.

That is the way of being a policeman, win some and loose some.

Sgt. Ogden is or was the Sheriff of Yuma County the last that I heard. I will bet that he is doing a good job, he was a good officer.
376 posted on 05/18/2004 7:01:31 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny (You can help win the election by becoming a REGISTRAR OF VOTERS, easy go to Court House and sign up)
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To: freeperfromnj
What gets me is the fact the NYPD has to even issue guidelines on this when it should have been a standard operating procedure to round up anyone expressing hatred of America after 9/11 if not before then!

Sounds like the PC lunatics are still running far too much of the show!
377 posted on 05/18/2004 7:05:41 AM PDT by Domestic Church (AMDG...)
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To: nw_arizona_granny
Imagine what he must know.

Over the weekend NYC had a bio/chemical simulated response test in the subways. Today we have this alert to the NYPD. I really think they are expecting something soon.

378 posted on 05/18/2004 7:07:06 AM PDT by freeperfromnj
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To: nw_arizona_granny
Heard on the news that the beam which fell in Colorado, was reported by a driver to 911 an hour before it fell.

What???? I hadn't heard this! Going to do some digging now....

379 posted on 05/18/2004 7:08:38 AM PDT by Velveeta
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To: Domestic Church; All

Here's an thread the researchers/analysts on the TM might find interesting:

The Zero-Hour: Remember the Zarqawi letter.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1137734/posts?page=5#5


380 posted on 05/18/2004 7:12:33 AM PDT by freeperfromnj
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