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This is Rich, I think I'll just start at the beginning,

I don't know who you (Havoc) is and we have no shared baggage, I think I shall just start at the top and work my way down

What I do see is what you yourself are continuing to do here - slandering the person with not one lick of evidence presented to back up your slander.

Your definition of slander and mine must differ, how do you know she didn't agree and found no reason to argue a point that she agreed with, Slander is not something that you can charge for her, nor her for you.

As far as my motive. I think I made my motive plain obvious.. It's to get you people to treat others with respect and common freakin courtesy.

Ok you are a control Freak

When I came here 6 years ago, I found myself in the midst of a religious war

No, we are now in the middle of a Religous War, six years ago we were in the middle of a Leadership Vacuum

Certain people were allowed to get by with saying whatever they darned pleased whether it was true, false, right or wrong.

Again, Control Freak, you will tell everyone true false right wrong

My motive is nothing more than mutual respect and fair play.

By whose definition, yours I assume

The subject involved is irrelevant.

Then don't waste Bandwidth, Keystrokes or Time on it, others find it entertaining

Certain people here don't let facts or the lack of them get in the way of destroying someone who presents a viewpoint that threaten's their profit margin or their cultist mentality.

That is a Talking Point straight from DU, (but you left out little bushy is an idiot and Halliburton)

They find the most convenient use of verbiage to attack with whether true or not and they aim to slaughter.

They (those idiot Bushbots) were mean and insensitive, they didn't confirm the Truth with you first. Slaughter is an interesting choice of words here, it is what you strive to achieve in Battle and what you do to food.

what Ross Perot termed the Republican attack machine in all it's foulness.. something as I've said before, I couldn't believe possible from republicans.

Where you at his Daughters Wedding or what? He was in his Dean Meltdown mode right about then, if you cared for him, that was the time to break out your trusty screwdriver and try to tighten ol Ross's loose screw.

Having seen it first hand of late, I'm sickened to my core by it and sick to death of it. And for my part, I intend to do what I can to put a stop to it.

While you have that screwdriver out, You might look for a loose screw a little closer to home.

I don't find that the best way to defeat liberal democrats is to act like the worst of them.

So Stop

Just as I don't believe the best way to defeat vile terrorists and show how better people can have it is to broadcast the evil of a few who thought it appropriate to treat them the same way Saddam treated his people. It's disgusting and it's without excuse.

Here is where we can agree in part, (1) The Media is broadcasting this BS over and over again and I believe that is wrong. What is really wrong is to somehow compare panties on the head to the MURDER, TORTURE, RAPE, MASS KILLINGS, DISMEMBERMENTS, GASSING and on and on of what Saddam did and in your World and Ted Kennedy's World these two separate things are somehow equal.

You must really hate, and it must really suck to be you.