Posted on 05/14/2004 7:35:59 PM PDT by quidnunc
It is a little odd, after spending 10 days in the wide open spaces of the United States, to look down on them from Canada. I am in Toronto and I feel as if I am listening to the goings-on in the great rooms of the house below, from the slightly cramped spaces of the attic. Canada feels strangely shut in. Canada exists in a sliver laid across the top of the States. It is as if Canada were America's toupée.
Not that you can say that here, of course. In Toronto, the contempt for everything America is and does is palpable. I am on a book tour, and, as one small example, all the elements of the Canadian book trade feel resentful of their role as adjuncts to the great market to the south.
Canadian book sales represent between five and 10 per cent of the North American market as a whole, and that is not a position of great potency. Canadian phone calls to American publishers, distributors and wholesalers tend to be ignored.
This is the predicament, it is often said, of the mouse in bed with the elephant. Not very sexy for either party. And when the elephant is harrumphing and trumpeting as he now is, scratching his armpits and generally spreading his enormous bulk from one side of the bed to the other, the life of the mouse is not to be envied.
But she doesn't squeal. She puts on her tweed waistcoat and half-moon glasses, and draws herself up and says: "Really. This is not the sort of behaviour of which I approve." The American elephant's hearing is drowned out by his own scratching-farting-bed-rustling business. He ignores her. The marriage persists only because of geography. Countries can't move out.
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(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...
You have that right. They don't like each other much either.
Regards,
"They have a vast flyover country with urbanites on the ends who think of themselves as better than the ignernt rednecks in between."
believe it or not, Canada's elites and intelligencia are ven more insufferable than American liberal and elites
Most importantly there is no strong Canadian history.
"This has been building since the early 80's"
Actualyl it has been going on since1968 when Treadau was elected PM.
Prior to 1968, the US and Canada were virtually identical in their views towards the world. Treadau was a pro-communist, kind of like a mild Hugo Chavez.
I wasreading that in the early 1900s Canadian were anti-American becasuethey though the US was too socialist and that US socialism would destroy Canadian invidiualism
"and it looks to me as though America has ticked off enough of the world as it is lately,"
that is precisely why were becoming anti-Canadian/European.
So the world is pissed off that the Taliban and Sadaam are gone??
Nixon was President for 6 years Treadeau was PM for 12 and then for 3 more, so his influence was a bit more like FDR's was on the USA. Canada took a permanent shift to the left with Treadeau that didnt occur with Pearson before him.
"The Bible tells us that "All men are equal in the eyes of the LORD." Now think this through, - do you *really* want to argue with GOD?"
THe value of their lives are equal, not their opinions or actions
But Canadians DO act and opine **individually,** do they not boxsmith13? Yet you and your friends here seem only to happy to judge 30 million people as one.
Personally, I did not vote for Mr. Trudeau, nor did any of my family, nor most of Western Canada for that matter. But then, I have never voted for *any* human rule, and never will. (Christian missionaries only *vote* for the Kingdom of GOD.)
This whole thread is supposed to be about Canadians supposedly being anti-American. I am trying to assure you that by and large they are not, and any who are (and I have met *none*) should be ashamed of themselves, as should you for your negative and hurtful remarks about an entire nation of people you do not know personally.
Or are we going to try to rationalize "Love thy neighbor as thyself" now? - Anij.
Yep, my father tells stories about the Canadian fighter pilots who used to buzz his base (Presque Isle AFB) for a "gear check" back in the 1950s. They'd fly by at low altitude with one jet inverted!
I can't imagine the whipped Canadians doing stuff like that now.
when I was talking about Canadian individualism it was in the context of the early 20th century.
Today Canadians dont think individually. Canada is a nation that greatly values consensus and doesnt like debate or conflict. Speech has been criminalized in Canada so much so that were you to publically proclaim your devotion for God, you might be charged with violating a fellow Canadian's "human rights"
Or are we going to try to rationalize "Love thy neighbor as thyself" now? - Anij.
Hmmm...would you like to address the article, instead of slamming fellow posters?
"It is estimated that between 30,000 and 40,000 Canadians crossed over the longest unprotected border between two nations in the world, and volunteered to serve in the U.S. Armed Forces." Source
Really . Do Americans ?
I ignored your Most importantly there is no strong Canadian history. simply because it was obvious you don't know much about Canadian history and that statement about it is the equivalent of me saying that Americans don't have a strong history . Except that I know better .You don't .
One reaches consensus with debate . As for conflict , parliamentarians are separated by a distance not less than the length of two swords for a reason. ;)
Canada is a nation that greatly values consensus and doesnt like debate or conflict. Speech has been criminalized in Canada so much so that were you to publically proclaim your devotion for God, you might be charged with violating a fellow Canadian's "human rights"
That's the same as saying that in Atlanta , if you put up a sign in Spanish you might be charged . The difference is in Atlanta there is a law against it . In Canada , you are free to proclaim your faith in any God , any time , anywhere . As you are to say what you think . However , free speech , even protected by your First Amendment , is not absolute.
Saying otherwise is wrong . As is the line I've seen else where , that the Bible is banned in Canada . Or guns are confiscated.
And in Canada, some free speech is less absolute than other free speech.
Try voicing a strong objection to homosexuality on the grounds that it is injurious to society and see what happens to you.
"That's the same as saying that in Atlanta , if you put up a sign in Spanish you might be charged . The difference is in Atlanta there is a law against it"
i can guarantee you this is most assuredly unture.
Canada is a nation that grants special rights to every vocal oppressed group. Canada is white liberal guilt run-amok.
Canada has no intriguing history so to speak of since confideration in 1867. And its history up to 1867 is bland and not worth mentioning.
We'll see how free you are to proclaim your faith when you say Homosexuality in a sin. If you say that in canada you can find yourself in jail
there was some dan akroyd movie a fews years back about how in 1957, Canadian developed the fastest highest flying bomber, but it was never put into production due to ICBMs taking over the role for bombers. In the movie the RCAF buzzes an USAFB in NY.
"As for SH and the Taliban, - perhaps many of us just have a broader view of who and what constitutes "terrorism." Are you **really** claiming that the U.S. has now rid the world of terrorists?"
certainly not. But it is the left that has a very narrow view of terrorism. to teh left only Al Qeada should be fought and only in Afganistan.
Canada's only suggestion to winning the WOT is to proclaim terrorism is the result of poverty
Your guarantee is as worthless as your opinion of Canadian history. Both are based on your own ignorance .
http://www.uta.fi/FAST/US8/SPAN/no-span.html
Of greater consequence for many Latinos and immigrants are local ordinances that penalize them for such linguistic "infringements" as posting commercial signs in foreign languages. Consider Maria Cobarrubias, who has built her general store into a profitable fixture in the Atlanta suburb of Norcross by catering to a growing Hispanic community that is transforming many parts of the South. Cobarrubias was stunned to receive a visit recently from the local marshal, who fined her for having a sign with the store's name -- Supermercado Jalisco -- in Spanish. Supermercado is the Spanish word for supermarket, and Jalisco is the Mexican state where Cobarrubias was born. Cobarrubias, 37, said she has lived in Norcross for seven years but heard of the law for the first time in November. She said she paid a $115 fine but is thinking about fighting back in court.
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