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To: woodyinscc
Seymour Hersh has been the rats point man. When he came out swinging, he praised Taguba's report, and Taguba himself. It will be interesting to see how he works his lies and part truths, in the coming days.

Hersh also has flat out asserted this was systemic and approved behavior that was done at the behest of intelligence. All refuted soundly by Taguba today.

Bob Dole (with new eye job) was on MSNBC a short while ago. Asked about this story said the media has way overcovered it. Wrongdoing was found out, investigated--by all means a thorough investigation is needed--and punishment should be given, which it is in the process of doing. Allison asks him how far up he thinks this went (she did not hear Taguba inform us it was from the brigade commander on down, evidently, or she's ignoring it). He says full investigation will answer, but clearly it was not our policy.

He said he thinks whoever revealed those photographs is in violation of the Geneva Convention. No, I don't expect anyone to be held to account for that, but Dole did say it, and very forcefully, too.

1,000 posted on 05/11/2004 10:20:09 AM PDT by cyncooper
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To: cyncooper
Here's another looking glass on history:


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Patton also created controversy when he visited the 15th Evacuation Hospital on 3rd August 1943. In the hospital he encountered Private Charles H. Kuhl, who had been admitted suffering from shellshock. When Patton asked him why he had been admitted, Kuhl told him "I guess I can't take it." According to one eyewitness Patton "slapped his face with a glove, raised him to his feet by the collar of his shirt and pushed him out of the tent with a kick in the rear." Kuhl was later to claim that he thought Patton, as well as himself, was suffering from combat fatigue.

Two days after the incident at the 15th Evacuation Hospital Patton sent a memo to all commanders in the 7th Army: "It has come to my attention that a very small number of soldiers are going to the hospital on the pretext that they are nervously incapable of combat. Such men are cowards and bring discredit on the army and disgrace to their comrades, whom they heartlessly leave to endure the dangers of battle while they, themselves, use the hospital as a means of escape. You will take measures to see that such cases are not sent to the hospital but are dealt with in their units. Those who are not willing to fight will be tried by court-martial for cowardice in the face of the enemy."

On 10th August 1943, Patton visited the 93rd Evacuation Hospital to see if there were any soldiers claiming to be suffering from combat fatigue. He found Private Paul G. Bennett, an artilleryman with the 13th Field Artillery Brigade. When asked what the problem was, Bennett replied, "It's my nerves, I can't stand the shelling anymore." Patton exploded: "Your nerves. Hell, you are just a goddamned coward, you yellow son of a bitch. Shut up that goddamned crying. I won't have these brave men here who have been shot seeing a yellow bastard sitting here crying. You're a disgrace to the Army and you're going back to the front to fight, although that's too good for you. You ought to be lined up against a wall and shot. In fact, I ought to shoot you myself right now, God damn you!" With this Patton pulled his pistol from its holster and waved it in front of Bennett's face. After putting his pistol way he hit the man twice in the head with his fist. The hospital commander, Colonel Donald E. Currier, then intervened and got in between the two men.

Colonel Richard T. Arnest, the man's doctor, sent a report of the incident to General Dwight D. Eisenhower. The story was also passed to the four newsmen attached to the Seventh Army. Although Patton had committed a court-martial offence by striking an enlisted man, the reporters agreed not to publish the story. Quentin Reynolds of Collier's Weekly agreed to keep quiet but argued that there were "at least 50,000 American soldiers on Sicily who would shoot Patton if they had the chance."

Eisenhower told one of his senior officers: "If this thing ever gets out, they'll be howling for Patton's scalp, and that will be the end of George's service in this war. I simply cannot let that happen. Patton is indispensable to the war effort - one of the guarantors of our victory." Instead he wrote a letter to Patton demanding that he should apologize or make "personal amends to the individuals concerned as may be within your power."

Eisenhower now had a meeting with the war correspondents who knew about the incident and told them that he hoped they would keep the "matter quiet in the interests of retaining a commander whose leadership he considered vital." The men agreed to do this but the news of the incident eventually reached Drew Pearson and in November 1943, he told the story on his weekly syndicated radio program. Some politicians demanded that Patton should be sacked but General George Marshall and Henry L. Stimson supported Eisenhower in the way he had dealt with the case.

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Source: http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/2WWpatton.htm

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My Question: Since Presumptive Democrat Candidate Kerry is fond of quoting Truman by saying "The buck stops here, not with the Secretary of Defense," does Kerry believe FDR was an unfit Commander-in-Chief by not offering to resign in the middle of World War II, just months before the Normandy Invasion?
1,020 posted on 05/11/2004 10:30:50 AM PDT by OESY
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To: cyncooper
Exactly, it seems Mr. Hersh has been outed as a lying shill for the rats. The press will conveniently brush this aside, and go on with their agenda. This will backfire on the dims and the press. In the meantime the President will go on doing his job, while the rats along with their complicit press, will try to manufacture another embarrassment
1,040 posted on 05/11/2004 10:44:09 AM PDT by woodyinscc
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