You are the one that claimed being forced to bear the cost for smokers was immoral......I said having to bear the costs of ANYTHING others do is immoral, I just used obesity as another example.
I pay for my own health care through my premiums and deductibles, just like my car and homeowners insurance.......no one is paying for me. I have to pay extra on my car insurance for uninsured drivers, I have to pay extra on my health insurance for uninsured people, same with my homeowners insurance. Haven't had a claim on my car insurance in something like 10 years, 11 years on the homeowners insurance, only a few (non-smoking related) things other than regular checkups on my health insurance in more than 20 years.
Yet every year all of my premiums go up, up, up. It's not me causing it.....it's those without insurance, whether they are smokers or not, whether they are fat or not.
Smokers more than pay their fair share of health costs for themselves.......that duck don't quack.
Well, you are not really correct here. You are not paying for your health care. Your insurance company is paying for your health care. They negotiate a fee with doctor and the doctor accepts payment for that service.
If you are healthy, your premiums and deductibles could far exceed the amount of care you actually receive. That excess pays the freight of others that use alot of service. Some receive service far in excess of their premium and deductible. Hence, they are being carried by the more healthy policyholder.
If your insurance carrier does not differentiate between the premiums paid by the lean and the obese, the lean probably pay more than they receive in benefits.
If smokers use more health care than non-smokers and the carrier does not differentiate between the two in the amount paid in premiums, the non-smoker will pay the freight of the smoker.
If you have never had a claim on your car insurance, you are paying the freight for some lead-footed kid who has been in loads of accidents.
There is a difference between entering into these insurance transactions voluntarily and having the guvmint picking up the tab and forcing it down the throats of the taxpayer.