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Soldier's Family Set in Motion Chain of Events on Disclosure [Hackworth involved in CBS photos]
NY Times ^ | 5/8/04 | James Dao and Eric Lichtblau

Posted on 05/07/2004 11:02:41 PM PDT by saquin

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To: BykrBayb
I'll take "what", for 1 million.:-)
301 posted on 05/08/2004 1:39:51 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: faithincowboys
WOW! Do a link on this thread to that;please.
302 posted on 05/08/2004 1:40:42 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons
Did I hurt your little feelings? Complain to the moderator if you think I've broken the rules. And if your spouses are upset by something I've said, I can only imagine how degraded they must be by your behavior.
303 posted on 05/08/2004 1:40:56 AM PDT by BykrBayb (5 minutes of prayer for Terri, every day at 11 am EDT, until she's safe. http://www.terrisfight.org)
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To: nopardons
Clinton Era Atrocities (no Hearings, No media)
It's right there on the main page! How could you miss it?
304 posted on 05/08/2004 1:43:19 AM PDT by philman_36
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To: faithincowboys
Yes, shame on him,indeed.
305 posted on 05/08/2004 1:43:21 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons
BTW, the space bar is your friend...
Another poster has the same problem.
306 posted on 05/08/2004 1:44:29 AM PDT by philman_36
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To: nopardons
Here's my post, it's long, Here's the source site, ,Here's an article about it from insight, much shorter
307 posted on 05/08/2004 1:45:46 AM PDT by faithincowboys
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To: tpaine
the unintentended consequences of losing civil control of the military intelligence apparatus in Iraq will reach to the top levels of our government, -- as incompetence in any war always does, one way or another.

Isn't that a bit melodramatic?

308 posted on 05/08/2004 1:45:47 AM PDT by McGavin999 (If Kerry can't deal with the "Republican Attack Machine" how is he going to deal with Al Qaeda)
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To: BykrBayb
No,dear,you didn't "hurt my feelings" at all.All you've managed to do is show everyone on this thread what a foul mouthed,smarmy,low class,unthinking,over emotional person you are.

Obviously you are more than just a little familiar with degrading behavior;you've done nothing else but engage in it on this thread.

309 posted on 05/08/2004 1:47:04 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: philman_36
BTW...who decided that you were the typing police? LOL
310 posted on 05/08/2004 1:47:57 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: faithincowboys
Many thanks! I'm going to bookmark all of that.
311 posted on 05/08/2004 1:48:32 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: McGavin999
"I wouldn't want to be Hackworth either. Hack just betrayed his country and every single member of the military. What a total creep."

"Yeah, he's going to be responsible for the death and injury of thousands. Not only that, but he has endangered this country more than anyone since Benedict Arnold.

Yeah, well he just screwed every man and woman in the military. They're going to hunt him down if this turns out to be true. Talk about betrayal."

"No, I'm not fine with the perps, but I'm furious with Hackworth because he should have known better. He should have known what this would do to the situation over there. He just endangered every one of those kids in that theater. He also endangered this country by putting those pictures into the hands of the media."


Hack betrayed his country and "every single member of the military"? By doing what exactly?? Trying to call attention to gross violations that were already being investigated by the military, violations which cast a horrible light on the majority of actual honorable soldiers who are still "somehow" able to tell the difference between right and wrong???

I love your priorities here, curse the name of the "evil" Hackworth who you disparage as a "traitor" while saying basically nothing about the people who have actually done the dishonorable deeds. Now we hear news about guards allegedly raping women and small boys and beating people nearly to death. BUT WAIT, THE REAL NEWS IS HACKWORTH, what a horrible horrible "traitor" for attempting to hold people publically accountable for actions which dishonor the country whose freedoms they were supposedly fighting for.

Comparing Hackworth with Benedict Arnold, saying that he will be responsible for "the death and injury of thousands", that he endangered "every one of those kids in that theater", that he endangered our country, and that military people are going to hunt him down? Talk about inane, exaggerated, fallacious and malicious comments.. As if somehow the knowledge of abuse within the prisons, which was already made known by the military to the press, is suddenly going to put EVERY single one of our troops and our very country in danger where it wasn't before? Absolutely ludicrous. And military people are going to hunt him down in droves eh? That would in fact mean that they would violate the very code of honor and ethics that they profess to live by. Brilliant conclusion!...

I personally disagree with MANY things Hackworth says and positions he takes, and I also disagree with the way in which he says and does things. I however do not feel the need or think I have the right to viciously attack someones character and motives just because I dislike or disagree with someones modus operandi in reference to their statements or actions concerning the military. Hackworth actually put his life on the line serving our country, have you? Amazing how you feel so bold to make fallacious and malicious attacks on him. Where is your civility and honor in all of this???
312 posted on 05/08/2004 1:48:48 AM PDT by subedei
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To: Texasforever
There was one memo that recommended gathering all negative war issues and releasing them at a scheduled interval. I will try to find that and pot it tomorrow. There was also a mysterious meeting between the Kerry campaign and all the media bigwigs including all three network anchors a few months ago.

You may be on to something. I do recall that memo and of course the mysterious Kerry camp meeting with the Liberal media big wigs. That meeting happend not long ago actually. Al Franken was in attendence if I am not mistaken.

314 posted on 05/08/2004 1:49:43 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (John Kerry: An old creep, with gray hair, trying to look like he's 30 years old.)
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To: MJY1288
"Maybe it would be wise to see if Hackworth has any connections to Scott Ritter or any of the companies that were on the "Take" in the U.N. "Oil for Food" Program" MJY1288

This is absolutely ludicrous. Hackworth taking oil money from Saddam and doing what exactly??? Writing articles that differ with or are distrustful of the military bureaucracy or that are overly pessimistic? Oh yeah.. He was never doing that before.... *sarcasm*

Great unfounded character assassination!...
315 posted on 05/08/2004 1:49:44 AM PDT by subedei
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To: subedei
I totally disparage what the people who took the pictures did, but Hack is supposed to know better. We have men in harms way. That's why I'm so angry with him. He's been in battle, he knew what this would do to moral, and he did it anyway.
316 posted on 05/08/2004 1:51:51 AM PDT by McGavin999 (If Kerry can't deal with the "Republican Attack Machine" how is he going to deal with Al Qaeda)
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To: subedei
Hackworth has no character to assassinate.
317 posted on 05/08/2004 1:51:58 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (John Kerry: An old creep, with gray hair, trying to look like he's 30 years old.)
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To: Rightwing Conspiratr1
I am not aware that MI was not included in an investigation until April.We should not hear about it until they get their ducks in a row.

I do know the innocent get dragged into investigations and I don't want a fiasco over ruining people for life or letting the guilty upper level off,either.Some stuff in an investigation report needs to be kept secret in order to give a fair trial.

Some of those who need questioned were transferred out and some are in Germany.I say let the chips fall where they may..no excuse for this...
318 posted on 05/08/2004 1:52:22 AM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: faithincowboys
Go to the post I just put up called "Clinton Era Atrocities (no hearings, no media)"

Interesting, and yes shocking. However did you apply your own title to the article?

319 posted on 05/08/2004 1:52:24 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Howlin
I'm only now reading this thread so please forgive me if this has been addressed further down.. You know what her attorney said tonight? That she joined the Guard for "a career path, to get money for college."

She signed up for military duty not welfare. It's service to the USA, no matter the branch...it is neither a handout nor an escape route. It should be an indisputable fact that any form of voluntary service is a privilege not a handout... that applies to all, even those who signed on (or thought about it) during the "clinton" years. This is so infuriating.

*temporarily relinquishing my soap box*
320 posted on 05/08/2004 1:53:10 AM PDT by hmmmmm
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