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Actually I think some of these so called atrocities photos should be framed and hung in the National Gallery in DC. We all are'nt sucked in by the Islamic "humiliation" canard. It's called "War", time to grow a spine.

I understand what you are saying about war. It is brutality on an industrial scale for all concerned.

But what President Bush is saying (if I understand him correctly) is that we can't win this conflict by sheer force and firepower. We have to win hearts & minds, and we do that by giving them liberty and democracy.

My father accuses Bush of sloppy thinking ("the world as it should be, rather than the world as it is"). But I think my father too cynical and leftist. And I am backing the President 100%

The only problem with your argument, and the Administrations stand, is that these people do not get excited by the prospect of democracy, but only get excited by their idiot God Allah. The "Hearts and Minds" approach is at best naive, we are dealing with fanatics and suicidal ones at that. The key to winning this conflict is to study the American solution to Japanese fanaticism in 1945.

Alright, the President apologized for the actions of a small minority of soldiers who abused some Iraqi prisoners. Some may use semantics to try to deny this, conveniently ignoring the fact that he said this: "I told him I was sorry for the humiliation suffered by the Iraqi prisoners..."

Now what do we do? Why not start by thanking God that we have a President that is on his knees seeking His guidance? Why not thank God that we have a President with a heart growing in faith and sanctification to see evil as evil?

Woe to you who call evil good!

Abusing a human being is not good; it is evil, and war does not change that. Scripture is full of godly men who were warriors, but they did not resort to immoral actions in war. They did what was right and RELIED on God to grant them victory. They did not torture prisoners of war.

The fact that the Islamicists will not apologize for their brutality does not matter! Because one person does something wrong, it means we also can? Come on! The President is concerned with recognizing when our soldiers do something wrong, so sorry if he pisses you off for trying to take an ethical stand instead of worrying about poll numbers. Got a problem with that?

I do not care if this is war. We correct our errors even in a time of war. This is America, not Iraq. We have higher standards. And if you don't like it, you can get out.

If some of you honestly think that we need more of these depraved people in our military, you put shame on this site. You put shame on this country. You put shame on the human race.

Let's go forward from this incident with a recognition that we need to fix our mistakes when we make them, and it doesn't matter whether it is in peacetime or wartime.