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Cyncooper, I just love folks like you. No really people who only read a few lines then go ballistic on them and then double post attempted 'slams' make me smile.

Let me show you the chain of events and you can judge for yourself who is spreading disinformation through ignorance.

1. I read Howlin's reply to Sarasota (Post #7):

Rush said a few minutes ago, that if Bush apologizes, it's all over for him
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All over for who? Bush? Is Rush not enough of a man to apologize for something that happened to humiliate a group of people?
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2. I started typing a reply, but got a phone call. I complete what I'm typing and hit post. (post #65)
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Posted by Outlaw76 to Howlin
On News/Activism 05/06/2004 1:36:17 PM CDT #65 of 1,029

If you apologize for something you didn't do, didn't have a hand in doing, and didn't know was happening you take upon yourself direct responsibility for what happened.

In this case he's saying 'It was my fault' by saying 'I'm sorry' unless he states it just right. He would be far better served by saying that he's ashamed and appalled and that those responsible will pay.

Now that he said 'I'm sorry' (if indeed he used those words) the press can freely blame him directly for what happened. Not a good thing.
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3. Howlin Replies (post 136):
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Do you not realize that Bush speaks for this ENTIRE country, even the dolts that did this in Iraq?

It's his JOB to take responsibility for ALL our citizens, whether YOU like it or not.

He would be far better served by saying that he's ashamed and appalled and that those responsible will pay.

You didn't hear the press conference, did you?
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4. My response(Post 192):
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"Do you not realize that Bush speaks for this ENTIRE country, even the dolts that did this in Iraq?"

Yes, of course I do. I guess responsibility wasn't the right term... I should have said that he is accepting that its his fault. It isn't his fault that this happened.

Unfortunately I did not hear the press conference and I started writing my post a long time before I had the chance to hit the 'Post' button.

Oh, lay off the caffeine friend, it makes you type in ALL CAPS.
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Ok, notice that I mention that I didn't hear the press conference in that post,(Cubical bound) and that when I originally replied to Howlin that I use the phrases "Unless he states it just right." and "(if indeed he used those words)" in my reply. These might be some good clues to those who seek fault in others. I admit it, when I replied to Howlin I was ignorant of what the President said. My reply wasn't in any way putting words in the President's mouth nor was I mis-stating anything he said. I was saying that the President MUST be careful of how he states it or he will be seen as being at fault.

Now, in my first post I wrote "If you apologize for something you didn't do, didn't have a hand in doing, and didn't know was happening you take upon yourself direct responsibility for what happened." I should have written that last sentence as ...you take upon yourself direct fault for what happened." Now do you understand? Lets shrink wrap it for you:

If a person says I'm sorry for something they didn't do they accept fault for it. Had the President said he was sorry in the wrong way he would be seen as being at fault for it happening. ok? I think Howlin understood where I was coming from after post 192.

To assume that I meant that he accepted fault for it, well "That is absurd"