[af_vet_rr]

The photo's are not the problem that everyone thinks they are .Yes they are disturbing BUT they are a symptom of something far more dangerous , the complete breakdown of command authority and the complete loss of good order & discipline within the ranks of the military intel & military police troops at this post.How far the rot has spread has yet to be determined but it must be stopped at all costs because with out discipline an army is nothing more than a really heavily armed mob running amok.

The Major General who kicked off the investigation around four to five months ago, said it was systematic. For something that some don't consider to be a problem, the Army had a CID team involved within 24 hours of the first report. I still don't understand how some who have served claim they don't care or don't care that there was a breakdown in command authority, or the implications involved in that.

Thankfully nobody here has said anything along the lines of "well Saddam treated his people worse, so anything our troops did is okay" (or at least I haven't seen anybody say that). I saw that on another forum (more militarily oriented) and a nice little flame-fest followed. Comparing the actions of our troops to a sick bastard like Saddam and saying they were okay, was not the wisest thing.

[af_vet_rr]

My father was in WWII, Korea, and retired during Vietnam. I asked him about it this week. He saw this as a sign of morality problems among our youth. He thinks when everything comes out, you'll find it was mostly young troops.

He said you have to focus on the sexual aspect that dominates many of the instances that have come out, that it differentiates this from the past, hence the problem with morality. I tend to agree.