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To: Dr. Frank fan
I understand the difference, but I wonder--can there really be THOUSANDS of ABDUCTED women from these countries in the span of a few years? It just...seems a bit off.

I think it's a bit sensationalistic--what likely happens in most cases is that the women are already prostitutes or are not averse to being in that "game" but are misled about the nature of their employment when they are brought over.

Not to say that there aren't any sex slaves, but I don't buy that thousands of people are all being kidnapped. Some? yes.
21 posted on 05/06/2004 9:07:46 AM PDT by Skywalk
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To: Skywalk
A new report, co-written by the UN and the 55-nation Organisation for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE), has estimated that 120,000 women and children are trafficked into the EU each year, most of them through the Balkans.

Basically what happens is the trafickers put adds all over eastern Europe advertising jobs in western Europe. The girls apply for the jobs thinking they will be waitresses or something like that. Then once they are out of their country they find out the truth, but they can't do anything.

22 posted on 05/06/2004 9:23:24 AM PDT by Seselj
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To: Skywalk
Not to say that there aren't any sex slaves, but I don't buy that thousands of people are all being kidnapped. Some? yes.

Not quite as far fetched as you might think. In the big European cities with millions of people, it's easy enough to conceal hundreds of these slaves in each city. There are a lot of big cities in Europe, so it's easy to believe that there are thousands of abducted women across the continent.

One of the British newspapers recently did an undercover expose on this issue and infiltrated several Balkan brothels. Even the tiniest villages usually had brothels with up to a dozen enslaved women working to service the criminal underground and the UN troops. The whole situation really shows the depravity of the UN and why they shouldn't be trusted in ANY country as occupiers.
27 posted on 05/06/2004 10:06:10 AM PDT by Arthalion
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To: Skywalk
Not to say that there aren't any sex slaves, but I don't buy that thousands of people are all being kidnapped. Some? yes.

I think you have a point and I understand why you balk at the word "kidnap".

From the stories I have heard, what usually happens lies in a gray area between a kidnapping, a con game, a seduction... Just as example, some slimy guy has an office downtown that nevertheless looks like a semi-legitimate business promising/advertising "work" in some foreign country. Young girls from poor families who need the money desperately show up to "apply" for the "job". (Which is, supposedly, being a maid in some rich household, or something.) Everything seems on the up-and-up (at least to a naive 17 year old girl from the country) but the guy says "of course, we'll need your passport..." Transportation is arranged for the girl to go somewhere (whatever foreign country), but upon arrival her passport is strangely withheld, or just taken, from her.

Now she can't leave, has no money, and has no options but to go to work as a prostitute for whoever has her. (This all is more the type of story I hear coming out of Russia, but I suspect something similar goes on in these cases...)

Now, maybe this all isn't exactly the type of "kidnapping" we're familiar with (which calls to mind a girl disappearing without warning, guys jumping her and grabbing her and pushing her into some van, blindfolded, etc.) but the effect is the same. I understand your suspicion at the large numbers but I think it's because you're misinterpreting what people mean by saying these girls are kidnapped. Substitute "tricked" or "coerced" if you like. In a court of law it would all probably still be considered kidnapping. And so in the main I don't really doubt this story.

34 posted on 05/06/2004 11:04:19 AM PDT by Dr. Frank fan
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To: Skywalk
Not to say that there aren't any sex slaves, but I don't buy that thousands of people are all being kidnapped. Some? yes.

It's quite real Skywalk.

40 posted on 05/06/2004 11:34:46 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (Resolve to perform what you must; perform without fail that what you resolve.)
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