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But you didn't take him up on it. You changed the terms. You assert trust issues about the money without a clear reason, and call him a crank. And you did not even have the courage to actually do it.

You want clear reasons?

(1) What has money got to do with it?

(2) I've never met a creationist who wasn't, fundamentally, a liar. Why should I trust him? It turns out, he claims to have a degree from a program which didn;t exist.

The issue, surely, is scientific truth. Why complicate it with $10,000?

I'm sure you could risk $10,000 in front of all your friends. And I am a friend. I love your knowledge when you tell me about something I can check out. It's is really marvellous!

No, bud, you're not my friend. Nothing personal, but I'm very careful about then people I call my friends.And I'd love to be rich enough to call $10,00 chump change, but I ain't,

But you didn't. You chose to take this forum to ridicule him. But you weren't up to his challenge. You are not a man of action.

I love what you teach me, and I do learn. You're an @sshole, from your demeanor. I consider you friend, in that I can learn from you. But I never want to take on your personality.

And I do believe you could take him for every cent of his $10,000 even if is was portioned out penny by penny.

But you didn't.

That is not important. After you declined his offer, you claimed victory. I don't care about your after the fact reasons. He had a challenge. You weren't up to it.

Make him eat his words. You have that kind of intellect. I know that. You are not a piker. Don't sell yourself short. Make sure the terms of judgement are fair.

But if you don't believe...

Being pants on the city square is embarassing, but if you really believe you are right...

Gamblers know, if you're not willing to put up a little sacrefice, you're toast. They'll find your little telltale signs and have you for lunch. But you're not gambling.

I may not be your friend, but you are mine. I don't necessarily have all my friends at my house, but I do recognize when someone helps me to grow. You have. But I still believe in your flaws. And they will keep you from being that hardcore intellect with precision, you want to be. But if you aren't forced to face each perceived limitation you will never advance your boundaries.

Heart, knowledge, organization or action.

You did not act. You could have. $10k for a prof is a priority decision. Excuses are fine. But you brought this challenge up. It is your growth, that requires the challenge. You brought it up. It is part of your persona. You can clear it up, and again, I think you would clean his clock. But you did not act.

Your conflict is now: Are you a coward?

Kick his @ss, get $10K

Or hide. Go away. Never say someone else is less intellectually formed than you are. You have lost the bragging rights. Teach, but never again, pontificate. You are just some non risk taking, second tier, teacher, that can't do.

As for friendship, maybe true friends should have told you some of the above. Go in peace.

DK