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PHONY IRAQI ABUSE OUTRAGE SYNDROME
Regularguys.com ^ | 05/05/04 | Larry Wachs

Posted on 05/05/2004 8:05:46 AM PDT by slim mackerel

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To: Long Cut; "Tony" Aguilar; 13th warrior; 1L; 1riot1ranger; 2bfree; 2_4texas; 375 H&H; 43for8; ...
I am on my knees saluting you FReeper Brother.

I am on my knees because I am praying to the Lord that this doesn't happen again.

I am saluting you because you are doing one hell of a job.

Thank You!

81 posted on 05/05/2004 5:49:24 PM PDT by Eaker (That the bright star of Texas shall never be dim while her soil boasts a son to raise rifle or limb.)
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To: Long Cut
God bless all of you and all the armed forces that suffer for the acts of a few.We must not allow another Kerry to arise and paint all with a broad brush,not ever.

Thank you for serving our country.
82 posted on 05/05/2004 5:58:19 PM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: Long Cut
BTTT for post #60. Thanks, Long Cut. You have my support.
83 posted on 05/05/2004 5:58:43 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (Take THAT Kerry and Hitlery! FREEPERS ROCK!!!!)
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To: Long Cut
I'm an old dog-face and I'm outraged beyond belief.

That was not the condition that I left "My Army" in when I retired in '92. Then who or should I say what was running it from 92 to 2000? What happened to all our services in the Grandiose social experiments fostered upon our services in the name of the "Peace Dividend" and "PCism?"
84 posted on 05/05/2004 5:59:09 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: blackdog
"There are not too many countries who are signators of the Geneva Convention."

At the last count there were 189 nation states that have signed the convention.
85 posted on 05/05/2004 6:06:21 PM PDT by Tommyjo
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To: Long Cut
Long Cut, you have stated what I feel about this better than I could.

We ARE better than this behavior. That is what makes us different from people that use loaded jetliners to knock down office buildings. I am ashamed that these morons have allowed themselves to become the face of the U.S. Military. I am ashamed that they gave the press the type of story the press has been having orgasms over -- the type of story the press has been praying for.

I want their officers OUT of the military and I want those that perpetrated these actions turning large rocks into small rocks at Leavenworth.

"'They' do it" does not cut it as an excuse to behave in this manner.

"I didn't know any better" is the first lie told by the guilty.

"My husband is just a scapegoat" comes a pretty close second.

I, along with you, am heartsick over this, and disgusted at those who would excuse these barbarities.
86 posted on 05/05/2004 6:08:55 PM PDT by No Truce With Kings (The opinions expressed are mine! Mine! MINE! All Mine!)
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To: Long Cut; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; Eaker

87 posted on 05/05/2004 6:09:43 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is ONLY ONE good Democrat: one that has just been voted OUT of POWER ! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: SandRat; All
It's not just the PC crap. Just look at the commanding "general" of Abhu Graib, Jans Karpinski.

Her vomit-inducing attempts to deflect blame, avoid the responsibilities of command, and overall ass-saving Bravo Sierra on TV is symptomatic of the OTHER Clinton-induced disease...that of avoiding, through any means, accountability.

I've talked to officers in my command. They are, one and all, outraged that a high-ranking officer is conducting herself in such a manner. They know, full well, what message is being sent down the chain by her self-serving babyfacing. It's that Flag Officers will pay "lip service" to the ideals of the service, but when the time comes to actually LIVE by them, they'll run for the tall grass and leave the "E"'s holding the bag. Our officers (including the C.O.) were livid at what she did to their ability to command respect from the men under them.

30 years ago, Richard Nixon (who, although he may NOT have been personally responsible for the conduct of his surrogates) rsigned rather than bring dishonor to his office. He chose, in the end, to do the right thing for the country. Fast forward to Slick...he denied, lied, blamed others, dissembled, reversed himself, and fought tooth-and-nail to hold onto that office and title he loved so much more than the nation he was SUPPOSED to be serving. Obviously, his example was seen, and heeded.

88 posted on 05/05/2004 6:12:16 PM PDT by Long Cut ("Fightin's commenced, Ike, now get to fightin' or get outta the way!"...Wyatt Earp, in Tombstone)
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To: No Truce With Kings
""'They' do it" does not cut it as an excuse to behave in this manner."

Those who use that logic must believe that we should have set up crematoriums for Japanese and German Americans in WWII, after all, "they did it".

89 posted on 05/05/2004 6:14:39 PM PDT by Long Cut ("Fightin's commenced, Ike, now get to fightin' or get outta the way!"...Wyatt Earp, in Tombstone)
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To: Peach
Long Cut's posts at #60 and on down...important view from active duty members.I read a similar message from a soldier in Iraq.
90 posted on 05/05/2004 6:16:28 PM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: Eaker
Bump for truth and service!
91 posted on 05/05/2004 6:16:39 PM PDT by NYTexan
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To: MEG33; prairiebreeze
Hah! Great minds think alike. Yours and prairie's that is.

She was just telling me to go look at that from about thread 60 or 62 on.


92 posted on 05/05/2004 6:17:57 PM PDT by Peach
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To: bin2baghdad
You're not defending me or any other soldier when you defend lawlessness.

Understood. I know I don't care what bad happens to the average sand maggot. They must be quarantined or destroyed. The authorities can take whatever action or not. I have no interest.

93 posted on 05/05/2004 6:18:04 PM PDT by Stentor
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To: Long Cut; Travis McGee
It's not just the PC crap. Just look at the commanding "general" of Abhu Graib, Jans Karpinski.

Her vomit-inducing attempts to deflect blame, avoid the responsibilities of command, and overall ass-saving Bravo Sierra on TV is symptomatic of the OTHER Clinton-induced disease...that of avoiding, through any means, accountability.

If a BG whines about "not enough training" should that be taken as resigning their commission? I would certainly hope so. Where was she under fire to deserve the rank????

I have no military prison guard training and I would not have done this simply on moral grounds!!!

94 posted on 05/05/2004 6:19:11 PM PDT by Eaker (That the bright star of Texas shall never be dim while her soil boasts a son to raise rifle or limb.)
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To: blackdog
Further to my earlier post I was forgetting about the definition from the US Supreme Court. In UK forces and for the rest of the world it is very more simplistic "Enemy personnel - In or out of uniform who carry arms openly".

95 posted on 05/05/2004 6:20:46 PM PDT by Tommyjo
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To: bin2baghdad
Ping to #60, Soldier. Keep reading after that...the slobs at the prison don't have all that many friends here, which is heartening.
96 posted on 05/05/2004 6:21:48 PM PDT by Long Cut ("Fightin's commenced, Ike, now get to fightin' or get outta the way!"...Wyatt Earp, in Tombstone)
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To: MEG33; Longview
Thank you for your message and your service. Duly noted.
97 posted on 05/05/2004 6:22:20 PM PDT by Peach
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To: Eaker
I have this image in my head of the President saying to Secretary Rumsfeld, as she was spilling her Bravo Sierra babyface routine, "I want those stars, on my desk, soonest. Preferably pinned to her skull."

From what I've seen of the President, I'm probably not that far off.

98 posted on 05/05/2004 6:24:53 PM PDT by Long Cut ("Fightin's commenced, Ike, now get to fightin' or get outta the way!"...Wyatt Earp, in Tombstone)
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To: jmstein7
An important message from an active duty Freeper#60 and on down.
99 posted on 05/05/2004 6:24:56 PM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: Long Cut
'Those who use that logic must believe that we should have set up crematoriums for Japanese and German Americans in WWII, after all, "they did it".'

Sadly, there are times that I have seen people come close to stating just that.
100 posted on 05/05/2004 6:25:33 PM PDT by No Truce With Kings (The opinions expressed are mine! Mine! MINE! All Mine!)
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