[Joe Hadenuf]

This problem is about 60 years old, and we are picking up the check instead of passing it on to our kids.

What problem are you referring to?

[RinaseaofDs]

The acquiescence of past foreign policy to Arab monarchies as they turn a blind eye to the impoverishment of their citizens, and the indoctrination of their children in Madras' (the only book they use, from age 4 to age 13 is the Quran, memorizing all 6666 passages), the subjugation of women there as something just higher in status than cattle. Entire generations of children being raised by women who's men are allowed to beat them to keep them in line - as a matter of proper religious and moral conduct.

Generations of abused children that grew up to be abused adults coming after us with 9 years of anti-western hatred under their belt.

France is starting to expel Arabs, the Dutch are waking up, and so are the Spaniards and Italians - though they are doing so ever so quietly.

And no amount of goodwill, not the risk of American soldiers in the Balkans, halting the spread of ethnic cleansing against Arabs, no amount of money, no amount of negotiation is going to make these people love us completely.

We actually have the very best shot possible in Iraq, due to the secular nature of Hussein's rule, the banning of Madras', and the brutal nature of the regime. The next best shot we've got is Iran - Persian, not Arab. Islamic, true, but most of the young people aren't buying it.

All of the garbage on the news, regarding our mistreatment - massively overblown. We are releasing people from Gitmo only to see them shooting back at us within two weeks.

This isn't a police action, its a war, and it isn't being conducted like one. Add to that the disloyalty of the opposition party, and you have the situation you are in today.

We made Japan work, and we made Germany work. If you can make Japan work, you can make just about any country a democracy. You just have to take the fight out of them using any means necessary. Patton and every general that wasn't called upon to be an ad hoc civil administrator understands this millenia old concept of how war is conducted. It is ugly and a crime unto itself, but wars are fought until one side gives up completely.